stop building ivern like a support stop
you're nothing but dead weight.
you're nothing but dead weight.
Or, hear me out, He's going to carry your sorry ass with constant shielding, CC and heals? Just a thought.
If you realize that you might just climb out of Silver.
rank shaming is toxin I report u
It's true tho he can make it so you can't die. Why screw that up just to carry a sorry team
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Or, hear me out, He's going to carry your sorry ass with constant shielding, CC and heals? Just a thought.
If you realize that you might just climb out of Silver.
yea tell that to the ivern i just finished shitting on
i would make a joke about your ability to climb but last i checked mordekaiser is in the trash along with your shit opinion.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2418102642/218757586?tab=overview all these trash iverns in this elo building him squishy
Ivern is a SUPPORT Jungler, he's supposed to build stuff to help his team.
What do you, with your impeccable insight on the game, suggest him to build?
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Ivern is a SUPPORT Jungler, he's supposed to build stuff to help his team.
What do you, with your impeccable insight on the game, suggest him to build?
TANK ITEMS that help him TANK for his team.
those items don't mean shit, all i have to do is burst him down and either kill him or get him to use these o so precious shields on himself and then just turn around and fuck his team up
either build him tank or stop playing him
i will happily fight ivern all day everyday if all they are gonna do is build stupid support items.
Tank items are not efficient on him as he lacks tank scalings. He has literally 0 %HP scalings or a ANY tank steroid of any kind.
He scales purely with AP, CDR and the support items that make him do that better. He's not a tank, his disruption comes from Daisy and she scales off AP:
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Tank items are not efficient on him as he lacks tank scalings. He has literally 0 %HP scalings or a ANY tank steroid of any kind.
He scales purely with AP, CDR and the support items that make him do that better. He's not a tank, his disruption comes from Daisy and she scales off AP:
well either play him as support or pick maokai jungle
im gonna keep getting free LP everytime theres an ivern jungle im facing
"because the idiots in low elo build him squishy so they fail constantly with him" - o f u c k. In response to the question: "Why aren't the boards complaining about Ivern"? The context of that post was Ivern sitting at a really high win rate.
Yet you come here and make a post about how they shouldn't build tanky with all those support items that allow him to be a cc machine and support the team...
How interesting.
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"because the idiots in low elo build him squishy so they fail constantly with him" - o f u c k. In response to the question: "Why aren't the boards complaining about Ivern"? The context of that post was Ivern sitting at a really high win rate.
Yet you come here and make a post about how they shouldn't build tanky with all those support items that allow him to be a cc machine and support the team...
How interesting.
meanwhile i have higher damage taken and healed than everybody on ivern's team because i built real tank items. (except for maokai but he was already a tank)
you want to know why i out did everyone on their team? because none of that trash support shit yall want him to build mattered. i just shat on his team because he was squishy and easy to kill and then everyone else got blown to shit by my team and me.
I suppose statistics are made up then. With your all knowing insight and council we can conclude that Ivern in both instances is trash. Therefore, in any instance we see these builds he should indeed lose. However, there must be a rip in time as we're seeing Iverns take the stage in the LCS and put out some good showings with these "trash" builds. The facts are so stacks against you... yet you still defend such a erroneous claim. You may have beaten one or two Iverns, but there could be 100 different reasons why that is.
It's Silver. That's the biggest reason here.
Ivern requires a ton of macro play and team coordination to be good. Granted, if he succeeds in that he IS Good, like really good.
my favorite color is spring.

http://champion.gg/champion/Ivern/Jungle
53.74% winrate in plat+ with
as his core build.
Checks out.