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@Riot: If Evelynn is not buffed within the next two patches; I will be demanding a refund.

BlackEyesBlue··5 votes·705 views

Evelynn is by a large margin my highest ranked champion in mastery. I know and understand her play style. And she has been my go to "fun champ" for a while now.

But this is the limit! You've taken away everything!

I am SICK TO DEATH of Eve getting a nerf EVERY patch while you spread false claims about her dominance! I can't even remember the last time I saw another player in one of my games play Eve off of her free weeks, an even then most of them fed.

You have made it very clear that one or more members of your balance team have it in for this champion! Poor damage, a huge CD on her ult, no sustain, no hard CC, 0 dueling potential, No heavy burst, poor team fighting, and now a large mana cost on her mobility, GREATLY reducing her already mediocre clear speed and making her EVEN EASIER to single out in groups! There is NO EXCUSE for how hard she has been gutted while so many stronger and MUCH more popular champions remain un touched or love tapped! 3 AD off Vayne!!!! who's damage comes from her Attack speed and W!!!! REALLY!? >:(

If Evelynn is not rebalanced or buffed within the next two PBE cycles. I will be expecting a refund on her, and my two skins. This is no longer the Champion I play for fun and it breaks my heart...

21 Comments

disregardable2 votes

You won't get a refund.

DrCyanide1 votes

This sums it up. They expressly mentioned that they won't give refunds for balance changes.

Meme Orgy2 votes

With the retarded op passive she has they should nerf her even more

facemelter7101 votes

Most people don't even build Runeglaive on Eve. Ever since Mid Ez got the glaive gutted its been an incredibly weak option for her. It still would be even if it wasn't her spellblade. Your much better off with warrior or cinderhulk depending on the enemy team. GOD the ignorance regaurding her is mind boggling! Yesterday in another post, someone though she ignored unit collision! Another that she was naturally tanky! Do people even know what they're complaining about! -BlackEyesBlue

Refer to that last sentence.

3TWarrior1 votes

it' s only perceived as OP...her damage is so low, she can't duel someone from full without them standing still and having no tankiness or sustain

RogueWill1 votes

You realize all the problems on Evelyn comes from her passive. Unless her passive were to be removed or reworked in such a way that she can't over pass every single ward but deep wards in her jungle she will be getting nerfs over and over again.

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

That's a terrible excuse, It was the first time, and it still is now!

So you cant see her coming w/o warding. that's literally EVERY champ! Her stealth is already the only stealth in the game that breaks when you get too close to an enemy champ! As opposed too Shaco and Rengar who can get right on top of you and keep you there with CC early, and blow you up without any chance to respond late! And their stealth can be used as an escape. Eve's can't!

RogueWill1 votes

The thing is not an excuse is the real reason, riot has admitted it several times if you take the time to read the releases.

You can't see her coming even with proper warding, sure her stealth will break once you are close to the enemies but at that point you are already on striking range and your enemies are relying on reflexes alone to do anything about it. In fact you can actually ult people from your stealth (the effective range is actually 725 since the clip range is 250 from each side from casting range 650)

Rengar Rengar stealth come from his ult alone, so early game he has no stealth and once he gets he finally has his ult it comes with a pretty heavy CD to be considered reliable (150 / 110 / 70), as for the CC, rengar only has a mild slow built on his kit, the root comes from empowering the ability which will result on him losing most of his damage (since he won't be able to empower Q) so rengar has to chose between damage or utility since he can't have both and that balance it out a bit. The exclamation mark during his ult also helsp a bit since you know he is coming and can sorta prepare for it (you still will need good reflexes thou)

Shaco Shaco stealth is on a much lower CD and he can make abuse of it but the duration is much sorter. Sure if you only have a ward on your closest bush you won't see him coming but a proper warded river will reveal him a couple of times since he can't stay stealth forever ( I can say the same about evelyn) Shaco has a mild slow as his only reliable way of CC, the boxes can be easily avoided since you will see him placing it them during a gank, if you decide to walk over them anyway then is your fault. Is more a zoning tool than CC.

The fact remains, she is hard to balance due to he passive (almost impossible) so the easiest way out is to nerf her so bad that she doesn't represent a threat. There are other champions under the same circumstances (Poppy comes to mind) .

3TWarrior1 votes

seriously? Evelynn doesn't even have a striking range unless she's AD evelynn, which dies instantly.

When evelynn appears, she might as well have a sign on her head that says "free gold"

as an example, a fed evelynn in one for all can't kill one heimerdinger that has only item 3151 as defense...literally nothing else to defend and not only is their damage equal with just heimer's turrets without his ultimate, he can easily finish Eve...and very few other AP items

NemeBro1 votes

{quoted}

That's a terrible excuse, It was the first time, and it still is now!

So you cant see her coming w/o warding. that's literally EVERY champ! Her stealth is already the only stealth in the game that breaks when you get too close to an enemy champ! As opposed too Shaco and Rengar who can get right on top of you and keep you there with CC early, and blow you up without any chance to respond late! And their stealth can be used as an escape. Eve's can't!

You can't see Eve coming with warding.

Also, she does build Runeglaive more times than not:

http://champion.gg/champion/Evelynn

Maximum Morde1 votes

I haven't even tried her after the nerf, but I highly suspect my effectiveness as Top Lane Eve is going to be severely cut, as is my Mid Lane Eve.

Nahui1 votes

40 mana on her W is not that big of a deal. It really is not. The community flips a shit as soon as something happens to any champion. Your games will go EXACTLY the same with or without a 40 mana W cost. There just may be a couple instances where you might need W and won't have the mana for it, but good thing you have a passive for that.

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

This also concerns the nerfs to her Q damage two patches back.

You clearly don't understand Evelynn, she regens mana after at least 5 seconds of doing nothing! This nerf has now destroyed her clear speed and crippled her already under whelming team fighting.

Nahui1 votes

{quoted}

This also concerns the nerfs to her Q damage two patches back.

You clearly don't understand Evelynn, she regens mana after at least 5 seconds of doing nothing! This nerf has now destroyed her clear speed and crippled her already under whelming team fighting.

This doesn't destroy her clear speeds. She doesn't need W to have amazing clear speeds. The reason they nerfed it is because of runeglaive. She now gets aoe on auto attacks from her spam Q so it makes her clear speeds too fast, so they kinda love tapped it. See how this works? Balance.

I'm sure the Q damage nerf relates to runeglaive too, however that does hurt her damage to champions so I think she will be getting a tiny buff eventually, perhaps on her E.

BlackEyesBlue2 votes

Most people don't even build Runeglaive on Eve. Ever since Mid Ez got the glaive gutted its been an incredibly weak option for her. It still would be even if it wasn't her spellblade. Your much better off with warrior or cinderhulk depending on the enemy team. GOD the ignorance regaurding her is mind boggling! Yesterday in another post, someone though she ignored unit collision! Another that she was naturally tanky! Do people even know what they're complaining about!

Nahui1 votes

{quoted}

Most people don't even build Runeglaive on Eve. Ever since Mid Ez got the glaive gutted its been an incredibly weak option for her. It still would be even if it wasn't her spellblade. Your much better off with warrior or cinderhulk depending on the enemy team. GOD the ignorance regaurding her is mind boggling! Yesterday in another post, someone though she ignored unit collision! Another that she was naturally tanky! Do people even know what they're complaining about!

Runeglaive got gutted from working on champions for the AOE, but is still very good for clearing jungle camps and still has spell blade, so it's still very viable on her. But they're nerfing her not because "Well she doesn't really build it", they nerfed her because if she did build it her clear speeds were phenomenal and then she could come out with a big gold lead over the other jungler.

Colgate Gator1 votes

She's 1350, I'm sure you don't need that refund.

She has been troublesome to balance ever since Season 1, you should had known what you were signing up for when you bought her.

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

I'm sure he means her skins too

CPU BIanc1 votes

Keep crying , meanwhile sona players actually have a reason to demand a refund.

3TWarrior1 votes

lol, I love bursting people for 30% of their hp at a time and not getting hit XD and that's without lich bane or luden's echo

you can increase that number toby quite a bit with those and can heal far more reliably than Soraka

Soraka heals more, but she has to be within a very short distance to heal and her burst is limited

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