SoloQ confirmed "on hold" indefinitely, Riot still refuse to make a clear statement

A Ocean·4/8/2016, 3:22:57 PM·6 votes·343 views

https://youtu.be/ivn02gibWQ8?t=32m31s

  • 5번째로 솔랭 출시여부 (5th question, in regards to solo queue release)
  • 이거 일단 좀 괴로운데.. 거짓말쟁이가 되서 개인적으로 좀 슬픕니다만. (This is a very painful subject because I feel like I have lied to summoners so I am pretty sad about the situation)
  • 2월말까지는 솔랭에대한 업데이트가있었습니다. 처음에는 몇주걸릴꺼다가, 3월말쯤에 말이 바뀌었습니다. (Up until end of February, we received updates about Solo queue - at first we were informed that it will take few weeks for Solo Queue to come out, however at the end of March, things have changed)
  • 일단은 잠정 중단되는걸로 알고있고 그뒤 업데이트는 없습니다. (For now, Solo queue development/launch is on hold and we have not received any update in that matter.)

[Translation taken from Reddit.]


To Riot: I think we all know what's up. We've known for months now. There won't be Solo Queue. So now you've basically confirmed that you scrapped it, why do you still make vague statements instead of being clear and honest with us? Solo Queue was never really planned, some pros like Hai posted detailed thoughts on how Dynamic and Solo Queue could actually never have coexisted. Literally not a single place believes you. You can keep doing "damage control" and tell us how SoloQ was originally planned, or you can man up and be honest with us now so that we can take you seriously again. Thank you very much.

4 Comments

Raelaem4/8/2016, 3:27:16 PM2 votes

lol, the fact that I still play this game after the crap they pulled this year is a wonder.... sigh fml

ff4sk4/8/2016, 3:35:26 PM2 votes

Whoa Riot lied and hide info from their playerbase again? What a big surprise!

Lost R4/8/2016, 3:47:30 PM2 votes

Are you implying that Riot just made up Solo Queue to troll the player base? Go and dunk your head in the arctic ocean for a few hours, then come back when you've had time to cool off.

There's barely enough supports or people who actually INTEND to play support (and not conscripted like the people who couldn't say "yasuo mid only or feed" fast enough) for one queue, let alone two; that's why your lobby times end up being longer than the game itself. Releasing Solo Queue, as they implied earlier today, might actually make the situation WORSE. They know they can't tell people explicitly "Play support more, you bastards!", so they're trying to push every other alternative as far as they'll go.

Riot tried to remove the issue of people fighting over their respective roles by creating a system that matched you with people from other roles. It's not mistreatment as much as it is misplaced idealism. It expects that there's a perfectly or near perfectly even amount of players wanting to play every role in every elo and division. And... well, it's idealistic. There's no shortage of players overall (unlike Dominion), but reality has shown that there's such a massive disparity in numbers, if you aren't a support, you're probably going to have an extraordinarily long wait time. If you ARE a support, you'll find a match in less than a second.

It goes without saying that there's a problem when one group of players have such a grossly disproportionate wait time than another, but what the hell is Riot supposed to do? Are they supposed to go back to an older, more inefficient system where people will throw down the ultimatum of "Yasuo mid only or feed" and potentially threaten your games? I know from personal experience that it just being ranked or a person supposedly being from a higher division won't stop players from being a massive shitheel made of permaban material just because they didn't get the role they wanted.

Riot's new Dynamic Queue is a more efficient system on paper and partially in practice, but the matchmaking only works in an idealistic environment because of the player diversity, or lack thereof. Introducing Solo Queue might make the issue worse, but the old system was not only uglier, but it was also more inefficient, and you had to deal with the ultimatums like I previously mentioned. There is no ideal outcome; Riot, and us by extension, are damned in every circumstance.

Funny enough, I think the issue with Dynamic Queue is causing the exact same problem that contributed about half a dozen nails into Dominion's coffin. With not enough players, the system tries to expand the range further into other ELOs and divisions to attempt to find someone, ANYONE, that will fill the required roles. If that's the truth, we're in some real deep shit.

Lost R4/8/2016, 4:07:51 PM1 votes

From the word of God.

Hey guys, we know there are a lot of players who are really passionate about solo queue. We're not trying to be dishonest or dodge this topic. Radio silence on this the past couple months has been painful, we know. We hoped to come out with a direct answer to this, but working through the problems players are facing on live now (consistency around position select, queue times and matchmaking for high MMR) is taking longer than we initially expected. We did a bad job at managing expectations around this and deserve the heat we're getting around that.

That being said, solo queue does not directly address either of these problems and could suffer from the exact same problems. We'll be honest: there's definitely a world in which solo queue doesn't return, but we'd rather keep it on the table as we work through these issues before making a final decision.