Looking for a backup to "main" since my current main is getting alot of LCS attention and getting banned alot, incoming nerfs? (GP)
Was looking for someone that kinda sorta mimics his play style (safe teamfighting distance with massive AOE) and thought maybe Ziggs or Xerath.
Which is better and the pros and cons of each? I hear xerath is better (but that thread was from 2015) BUT I have the Master Arcanist Ziggs skin from the crafting system which is a + lol
Please HELP!!!
lllusive Man2 votesboth are fine but ziggs bombs can be avoidet by stepping in any direction hell they sometimes bounce over an enemy
xerath has cc and an disgusting range on all his stuff i would stay with xerath.
oh pro and cons ziggs: +greate waveclear +destroys tower fast
xerath : +long range +pokemaster +endless mana sustain +dmg of doom you like lux ? i dont her ult is dealing half of you health bar every 20 sec from 10 km range. well xerath does the same just every 3-5 sec with his q
DrCyanide1 votesXerath is better in most situations. His kit is more reliable overall, offering very quick burst damage.
Oh Me So Ornny1 votesok thank you!
You guys dont know of another midlaner simular to GP by chance? Just love the aoe dmg and how mobile/safe he is with the barrels
lllusive Man1 votesok thank you!
You guys dont know of another midlaner simular to GP by chance? Just love the aoe dmg and how mobile/safe he is with the barrels
well try my main cassio she has medium range but has insane poke and burst potential + shes the sustain dmg queen
Oh Me So Ornny1 votesill have to give her a shot again....i played her pre rework and went like 2-143452 lol
lllusive Man1 votesill have to give her a shot again....i played her pre rework and went like 2-143452 lol
xD yeah we all know that feeling if you try a difficult char and get wrecked that happens to me when i play zed always getting a fizz main in mid then and getting destroyed -.- and this days its so hard to even get him through ban phase
Oh Me So Ornny1 votessorry....but as a former Veigar main i been banning Zed everygame since the new match making system lol...and will continue to do so, regardless of his state in the game.
I despise zed from the bottom of my heart HA
lllusive Man1 votessorry....but as a former Veigar main i been banning Zed everygame since the new match making system lol...and will continue to do so, regardless of his state in the game.
I despise zed from the bottom of my heart HA
im cass illaoi main so i usually dont like zed too but he looks like shredder and i love shredder -.- sometimes i wanna abuse annoying chars
BIue Monk1 votesXerath is better, I think.
Sohleks1 votesXerath if you want more powerful much more reliable basic abilities. Ziggs takes it with his explosive ultimate and a little more utility.
Xerath Q zaps an entire row at once. Ziggs Q is very very avoidable from range; it's just a bouncing little pellet spec. Xerath has more direct burst compared to Ziggs on his W/E. But yeah compare ults then Ziggs could take it in a blink of an eye; however Xerath ult is tons of fun for cleanup.
Xerath has to and wants to position further back than Ziggs.
Ziggs is cute but for full tryhardedness go Xerath. I find Ziggs isn't dependable at all if your lane opponent and targets are at range and can sidestep his Q's. Unless they're melee, then they have to last hit creeps and eat bombs. Perhaps Ziggs is better at disengaging himself from THOSE champs mid lane than Xerath is.
IF you're doing well as Ziggs though he destroys bases super fast. So assuming equal success he closes games out easier.
So technically Ziggs can fit better into CC wombos, but Xerath is more consistent depending on your own skillshot accuracy. With Ziggs you would honestly be more reliant on team CC.
Hyperiön1 votesPersonally, Ziggs is better than Xerath immo, massive deeps, and team fight potential, objection control. Mad wave clear from afar. not to mention the instant turret death under 35%
Lugg1 votesIf you are good at skillshots, then Xerath. His entire kit is skillshots. I give him the advantage over Ziggs since he has hard CC which allows a full combo on someone. Plus Ziggs bombs can bounce over targets and are pretty easy to avoid. His satchel charge takes LOTS of practice to get good with, otherwise it can actually get you killed.
If you are bad at skillshots, Ziggs all the way.
TheDevice1 votesZiggs bombs are a more difficult skillshot than Xeraths q unless you're throwing them right on top of the enemy.
Personally, I'd say Xerath since he's more reliable. If you can keep landing Q's and be aware of your positioning then he can offer a lot to fights. I also think ziggs has a higher skill cap.
If you play Xerath, just remember to use his passive as best you can in lane / fights or else you'll just run out of mana. Its a tricky thing to get used to if you're trying to auto an enemy champ.
They both have really fun kits though.
Oh Me So Ornny1 votesim meah at skillshots...which is y i thought maybe ziggs since his Q is like a 2.5 sec CD
Bisaknosp1 votesi prefer ziggs because i like 1 shotting towers with passive+lichbane+w
Shrek Luigi1 votesXerath, definitely. He's super fun to play, and pretty strong to boot.
Slamurai Jack1 votesXerath scales better and is a stronger laner but is less reliable. Ziggs has more team utility but weaker 1v1. Xerath has the raw damage to hard carry if he gets ahead but Ziggs really doesn't. Ziggs has far greater map control with his ult to clear side waves and his passve+W to destroy towers extremely quickly.
It's really a choice between higher carry potential or higher utility and safety. I lean towards Xerath in that respect: you're going to need to carry a lot of games from mid and Xerath is simply a lot better at it if you're good at him.
SwiftKitten881 votesits depends what u want. ziggs has better teamfights and has has an escape (although its highly unreliable) ziggs is much better at zone one and his E pretty much has a permanent uptime at high levels because of cdr
xertah bring cc to the fight were as ziggs does not. he is also much more reliable damage wise and is easier to play with much easier skillshots
ziggs is also really good at pushing objectives if he has backup from his team
xerath is much better at 1v1 and has better waveclear