Zyra ult mana cost still increases with ranks

iahim98·1/23/2018, 2:15:38 PM·43 votes·2,243 views

As the title says, Zyra ultimate cost increases with ranks: 100/120/140 , something left from the good old days, while most champions now days have a static cost of 100 mana at all ranks. So if any Rioter sees this please help bring the plant lady to today standards, as I remember quite a while ago Sona got this treatment (5.5*.

For the rest of us non-rioter plebs, do you guys know any other champion that has this old "ult cost increases with ranks" going for him? Any time you got screwed by being a few mana short from ult? The only other I know are Karthus (150/175/200) and recently found out Amumu (100/150/200), and while I doubt they will change Karthus as his core build consists of RoA,tear + the fact he gets a free guaranteed cast in his passive, Amumu seems in a similar position with Zyra.

EDIT: I found the patch Sona got the change - 5.5 (the patch Bard was released, damn I feel old) and it got a relevant quote "For a while we've been normalizing mana costs on ultimates, and Sona's the recipient of the next round." so I hope they still do that.

EDIT 2: After I made the post, I was curios what other champs are on the same boat, so after half an hour on lol wiki, the only others I found where Zilean (125/150/175), Vi (100/125/150) and the odd one TF (150/125/100). I would've edited this sooner, but I had to go to sleep so some/one people (Hi, The Yetii Rider) might've commented and I didn't put it in the post. Again if I missed someone please tell me, I tried to look at all champs, but I might've missed someone, also please no low CD/ammo ults, those are balanced different.

27 Comments

Void Baboon RF1/23/2018, 4:04:44 PM19 votes

That's too much work man, need 6 months to figure it out - meddler the janna picker

Cowseed1/23/2018, 11:34:52 PM9 votes

You're absolutely right.

Zyra mana cost at all ranks => 140

Penta Ace1/23/2018, 4:13:08 PM5 votes

yes plz

The Yetii Rider1/23/2018, 11:00:27 PM2 votes

TwistedFate 's Destiny is interesting in that the mana cost actually starts above 100 and scales down, 150/125/100.

HungryAngry2SPP1/23/2018, 8:24:13 PM2 votes

Today, i've played 3-4 games with Zyra mid, and it heppened me to run OOM only once. I see no problem there (other than the champions must have identical mana usage, which in my opinions is a bullshit. Diversity)

winteriscoming971/23/2018, 10:32:09 PM1 votes

I didn't even know the cost stayed the same.

But Kassadin cost increases! Lel

paisy1/23/2018, 11:25:43 PM1 votes

I mean some champs have to deal with mana costs higher than 100 on a basic ability. Like Master Yi's Q (as of now) and Morgana's W.

Also, Zyra isn't really a mana hungry champ. Sure the ult cost reduction would help, but it's not the worst thing about her.

LordGeovanni1/23/2018, 9:41:12 PM1 votes

Taric's q at max range no matter how many stacks it has. is as expensive as zyra's ult a max rank i guess it must have just as much impact. while tanks dont even have mana regen items.

Handy Sandy 1/24/2018, 1:05:39 AM1 votes

Same as Amumu, Zyra's ult has a much bigger impact than any other like Cho or Syndra. It's pretty undodgable (if you're in her range ofc...like the frontline) that has pretty much no counterplay besides "Get away from me so i can run away or somethin" so it should have a pretty large mana cost because of it's impact.

Even ults like Ornn or sej don't do as much since they aren't instant, can be dodged easier, or aren't as big

thats the only explanation i can think of idk

NorthernRedStar1/24/2018, 4:28:44 AM1 votes

Riot hates Zyra, so it's unlikely to happen anytime soon.