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With Karthus gone,there will be 5 champions left that still have a non static ult mana cost over 100

iahim98·10/19/2018, 11:22:55 AM·33 votes·14,317 views

So on PBE Karthus is getting his ult mana cost reduced from 150/175/200 to a static 100 mana cost at all ranks, which will bring him in line with what about 95% of the champion roaster that has a mana cost on their ult. (Note that I do not count low CD ults like Corki or Zoe have, or stacking ults like Kog'maw and Kassadin have, those don't have a 100 mana cost for a different reason.) Now beside Karthus, this are the 5 champions left that still have their ults mana cost either over 100 or grow over 100 (you will notice they are all rather old champions):

Zilean (125/150/175), Amumu (100/150/200), Zyra (100/120/140) Vi (100/125/150), and the odd Twisted Fate (150/125/100).

Riot has been bringing champions ult costs in line over time either through reworks or direct cost changes like Karthus got and with this post I hope that they will bring in line the last champions that still follow these old balancing rules (beside maybe TF which might have that mana cost for a different reason).

If I missed someone, please tell me and I will add it in the post. I did try to look through all the champions costs, but I might've still miss someone.

Also fun fact, last time a champion got his ult cost directly changed to 100 (at least that I remember) was in patch 5.5(Bard release) to and had the following quote "For a while we've been normalizing mana costs on ultimates, and Sona's the recipient of the next round. Sona buffs. What a time to be alive."

36 Comments

Unvictus10/19/2018, 2:15:04 PM38 votes

Zilean’s mana cost is just fine imo. That shits on way too low of a cd for the power it provides. I personally see no problem with it’s cost.

Strawberrycocoa10/19/2018, 3:22:38 PM11 votes

With Karthus gone

You gave me a damn heart attack until I got to the body of your post. PHRASING! >_>

Pika Fox10/19/2018, 3:30:46 PM8 votes

So we just need 1 more removed, and it will be in a perfect state.

hotarse10/19/2018, 3:14:00 PM6 votes

Vi needs some buffs.

RookPusher10/19/2018, 8:20:37 PM6 votes

I'd like to thank the OP for including what the conversation was about in the post, off the bat. Unlike the legions of posts here that just assume you know what is being referenced and bing smarmy about it.

Upvoted.

Karunamon10/19/2018, 2:47:44 PM4 votes

Karthus probably did need some of these buffs, but was buffing the no-skilliest of all no-skill abilities in the game _really _ necessary? 250+AP damage to every champion on the map on a 3 second channel is even cheaper now?

Chembaron Yamada10/19/2018, 3:36:15 PM3 votes

Amumu needs a VGU anyway, I think we can assume that his ult mana cost will get streamlined when this happens.

Herlgar10/20/2018, 8:18:19 PM2 votes

I don't understand why it's necessary for all ults to have the same mana cost. Some are much more impactful than others, and some basic abilities like Morgana Tormented Soil have a mana cost above 100. In general I feel like mana costs have way too little impact on the game, especially for newer champs.

rtbf22561824110/19/2018, 8:16:19 PM2 votes

Well TF and Zilean ults are far more impactful in most cases than the rest. Some champions have base abilities that go well over their ultimate costs. Janna being the prime example here with a 110 mana cost on E.

Karakot10/19/2018, 11:37:54 PM2 votes

I never knew that amumus ult was higher. Dang

ÈvilMorty10/20/2018, 12:31:24 AM1 votes

I mean Anivia ult for 1 second plus initial cost is about 115-135

Rock MD10/19/2018, 11:47:48 PM1 votes

They will probably fix everyone's except TF's.

TF's is there specifically because Riot wants to gate how safely or frequently he can port. Although, with how frequently Riot has added tools like that his mana cost might get normalized within a season or 2.