Why do champs like volibear and darius get to do damage without building damage

bobsenbob·10/27/2015, 11:23:50 PM·3 votes·594 views

pretty much title, champs like darius and voli bear get to build stupidly tanky and be unkillable while having huge passive steroids and dealing shit loads of damage, adcs and mages have to be squishy in order to do their damage and both darius and voli bear have ways to prevent kiting, wiht deadmans plate, its even harder

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Renaille10/27/2015, 11:35:48 PM2 votes

Because they'd be useless if they didn't.

Melees either need to do damage while building tank or be extremely mobile to be viable. With cc thrown in sometimes.

Predatore10/27/2015, 11:26:45 PM1 votes

i always ahted being in games with voli because of that damn passive and bite

TehNACHO10/27/2015, 11:32:14 PM1 votes

Because they tend to do very little of everything else.

CC? Darius and Volibear both have a single displacement based effect and a slow built in to their kits. Compared to any CC tank or utility mage, the amount of non-damage based commitment they can make to a team fight is exceedingly poor.

And then, how do they deliver their damage. You have the choice of semi-awkward AOE capabilities or somewhat more easy to apply insanely weak AOE capabilities. Take your pick, any mage will blast them out of the water in terms of big multi-striking damage.

And then there's that you often have to build into their defenses. Darius has no true defensive steroids and Volibear requires a large margin of resistances to make sure he doesn't die trying to utilize his. This means less flexible build paths which means they must specialize even more into the one job they're good at which means it's exceedingly hard trying to overcome what they lack through items. For reference, Utility Alistar does the tank job just as well as either of these guys with his ult up while also being able to afford item slots that more directly support the team.

And hell, they're both melee. Given how much the boards complains about it, it should not be that hard to realize why that's a problem.

The only thing these guys are good at are stat checking individuals in a fight. The reason why they are so prominent in combat stats is because their only strong points are their combat stats.

Trash MammaI10/27/2015, 11:32:23 PM1 votes

For Voli his bite is his main source of damage, it has a pretty long cd unless you stack a ton of cdr and even then it's pretty high and is very weak until you get a ton of hp.

Darius is just a dumb design RIOT is basing it off of "he has no business reaching you but if he does you die" which is fine for ranged champs since they all poop on him hard, stupid for melees tho

WalkingInACircle10/27/2015, 11:33:11 PM1 votes

Because they're melee.

It's a bit of a disadvantage.

Earl Eulrich10/27/2015, 11:37:59 PM1 votes

Because they have to walk to their opponents in order to get that dmg to them - so if they needed to build dmg first they´d just be blown up while on their way and deal 0 dmg at all (happens often enough already despite building tanky).