Twitch lacks any form of good counterplay

Hailey Hayato·8/2/2016, 9:26:54 PM·1 votes·1,974 views

Twitch is one of those "WTF!?" Ad carries. But what makes me angry about him is.

1: His passive. I'm going to compare Twitch's passive with Draven's old one(Wicked blades) and Darius's passive because all three of them are DOT's.

Draven was a monster in lane with his old passive and could easily win most trades because of the DOT. It was removed in order to "balance" him out which Riot did a good job doing actually(Big surprise there since they can't balance this game properly at all at times it seems). I can understand Darius having a bleed since he is melee but why exactly was Draven's passive reworked and not twitch's?

And don't give me that crap about "it fits his character" cause that's a load of horse hay. Draven's old passive fit his theme WAY better than his current one which by the way only serves to stroke Draven's already big ego, gameplay wise it doesn't fit his kit at all since its practically useless unless you can get a frag or two with a few hundred stacks.

Twitch's passive is now basically "on the first AA" a lesser version of Wicked blades, get 5 stacks on you and it becomes an empowered stronger version of wicked blades WHICH I might add, deals TRUE damage. At least Wicked blades did physical/magical damage.

Every single Twitch player I've faced either gets steamrolled early game and then gets one, two or three items and then kicks A$$. OR he steamrolls the enemy team completely due to being more skilled and face-rolls everyone and everything in sight with R.

Riot should move twitch's passive to his ultimate and make it so that you can only get "stacked" while twitch's R is active and give him a new passive that isn't broken.(lets face it here, true damage is broken no matter what you do to it..)

And 2nd: His stealth. Stealth is just like silence. They lack any meaningful counter-play mechanics. Riot did a good job on fixing silences but Stealth... Pfff, EVEN I could balance stealth better than Riot if given the chance and I don't even know a thing about Riot Games inc.

The only real counter-play to stealth is of course. PINK wards... BUT? that's right. Riot had to screw us over on this one too. Oracles was all but removed from the game, now only existing on ARAM and even then it goes away when you die so that 300 gold down the drain. Now, We have pink wards in the item shop in-game, so please explain to me WHY I CANNOT BUY IT WHEN MY 6 SLOTS ARE FULL...

First they remove green wards completely. A retarded rookie mistake cause everyone knows wards increases the chance of winning by a LONG SHOT because and I quote CALL OF DUTY(of all games...) "Knowing where your enemy is IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE" which is true.

So we can no longer buy green wards early game to help us warn about ganks and or ward objectives like Herald, Nashor and Dragon. Instead we got a crappy practically useless yellow trinket that most people will trade in for blue or red. The wards it gives doesn't last long enough, the recharge on it is FAR TOO LONG... And its the only form of green wards we get WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SIGHTSTONE. But you really expect me as an ADC to buy sightstone cause I want more vision? "ARE YOU FU*KING INSANE" -AngryJoeShow (thanks Joe!)

That alone tells me that the balancing team doesn't play this game at all. But, the yellow trinket was actually really good when it was released because you could upgrade it. Either get better longer lasting green wards(With a better recharge rate?) OR a pink ward which was visible to everyone.

Riot. For the love of god. Give us back buyable green wards for 50 Gold, revert the yellow trinket changes and PLEASE. Give twitch a warning sign like you did Rengar and Evelynn. And Riot for crying out loud. What the actual fu*k is wrong with Red trinket anyhow? Using the upgraded version of the red trinket should "REVEAL" stealthed enemy champions like teemo, twitch etc etc.

And I'm using quotation marks because this is how someone with "BRAIN DAMAGE" thinks counts as "REVEAL".

(Thanks Joe!).

-Hailey

14 Comments

Raven Elizabeth8/2/2016, 9:39:38 PM1 votes

I don't see any nerfs to twitch coming anytime soon. He isnt played much, his winrate is almost 50% and he is hardly ever banned. I dont play bot much any more(im mid/top) but i use to support alot. I have only played against twitch a handful of times. I would build health or chose runes with health to counter that true damage. His invisibility is not as great as it use to be he has a wait period before it actually activates. His only annoying attribute is his ult but being the squishy Pinky(brain?) that he is he can be burst down if focused.

Shadòw8/2/2016, 9:40:59 PM1 votes

item 2043

and yes, you can buy them as ADC too.

And when you are Fullbuild Twitch has already fallen off hard

shaiith8/2/2016, 9:42:44 PM1 votes

Thought i'd mention, actually Oracle potion lasts 5 minutes even through death. It no longer disappears before its time is up.

zlumpy8/2/2016, 9:44:36 PM1 votes

Oracles persists through death in ARAM now.

Moesnd8/2/2016, 10:14:48 PM1 votes

Sweepers works against twitch.

Slack King8/2/2016, 10:19:23 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hailey Hayato,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dKyKYdbd,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-02T21:26:54.360+0000)

Twitch is one of those "WTF!?" Ad carries. But what makes me angry about him is.

1: His passive. I'm going to compare Twitch's passive with Draven's old one(Wicked blades) and Darius's passive because all three of them are DOT's.

Draven was a monster in lane with his old passive and could easily win most trades because of the DOT. It was removed in order to "balance" him out which Riot did a good job doing actually(Big surprise there since they can't balance this game properly at all at times it seems). I can understand Darius having a bleed since he is melee but why exactly was Draven's passive reworked and not twitch's?

And don't give me that crap about "it fits his character" cause that's a load of horse hay. Draven's old passive fit his theme WAY better than his current one which by the way only serves to stroke Draven's already big ego, gameplay wise it doesn't fit his kit at all since its practically useless unless you can get a frag or two with a few hundred stacks.

Twitch's passive is now basically "on the first AA" a lesser version of Wicked blades, get 5 stacks on you and it becomes an empowered stronger version of wicked blades WHICH I might add, deals TRUE damage. At least Wicked blades did physical/magical damage.

Every single Twitch player I've faced either gets steamrolled early game and then gets one, two or three items and then kicks A$$. OR he steamrolls the enemy team completely due to being more skilled and face-rolls everyone and everything in sight with R.

Riot should move twitch's passive to his ultimate and make it so that you can only get "stacked" while twitch's R is active and give him a new passive that isn't broken.(lets face it here, true damage is broken no matter what you do to it..)

And 2nd: His stealth. Stealth is just like silence. They lack any meaningful counter-play mechanics. Riot did a good job on fixing silences but Stealth... Pfff, EVEN I could balance stealth better than Riot if given the chance and I don't even know a thing about Riot Games inc.

The only real counter-play to stealth is of course. PINK wards... BUT? that's right. Riot had to screw us over on this one too. Oracles was all but removed from the game, now only existing on ARAM and even then it goes away when you die so that 300 gold down the drain. Now, We have pink wards in the item shop in-game, so please explain to me WHY I CANNOT BUY IT WHEN MY 6 SLOTS ARE FULL...

First they remove green wards completely. A retarded rookie mistake cause everyone knows wards increases the chance of winning by a LONG SHOT because and I quote CALL OF DUTY(of all games...) "Knowing where your enemy is IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE" which is true.

So we can no longer buy green wards early game to help us warn about ganks and or ward objectives like Herald, Nashor and Dragon. Instead we got a crappy practically useless yellow trinket that most people will trade in for blue or red. The wards it gives doesn't last long enough, the recharge on it is FAR TOO LONG... And its the only form of green wards we get WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SIGHTSTONE. But you really expect me as an ADC to buy sightstone cause I want more vision? "ARE YOU FU*KING INSANE" -AngryJoeShow (thanks Joe!)

That alone tells me that the balancing team doesn't play this game at all. But, the yellow trinket was actually really good when it was released because you could upgrade it. Either get better longer lasting green wards(With a better recharge rate?) OR a pink ward which was visible to everyone.

Riot. For the love of god. Give us back buyable green wards for 50 Gold, revert the yellow trinket changes and PLEASE. Give twitch a warning sign like you did Rengar and Evelynn. And Riot for crying out loud. What the actual fu*k is wrong with Red trinket anyhow? Using the upgraded version of the red trinket should "REVEAL" stealthed enemy champions like teemo, twitch etc etc.

And I'm using quotation marks because this is how someone with "BRAIN DAMAGE" thinks counts as "REVEAL".

(Thanks Joe!).

-Hailey

His counterplay, is deleting him.

Sohleks8/2/2016, 10:25:02 PM1 votes

He is a dirty cheese champ good for boosting and it is pretty sad to get rolled by one.

He is balanced around getting stomped in lane which is not ideal.

Usually though Twitch playing at his own skill level gets lane stomped 60-70% of the time though. If he gets a good support duo partner he can cover this up though.

Mmm I used to love my Twitch, but he's just not as easy as he once was. His ult duration is pretty short now and he is pretty bad in teamfights w/o it. That's what keeps him from being top tier. If foes can peel off the fight suddenly he'll be not good. He has some hardcounters Braum Yasuo

Don't compare twitch poison to Draven bleed though. Twitch poison doesn't even outdmg health regen early game until like 4 stacks lol. Release Draven was notorious for being an unbeatable lane god. Big difference. That poison is there for thematics and his E mechanic and it keeps him from auto'ing under the tower and going in again. It's a mixed blessing

MISTAFUNKTASTIC8/2/2016, 10:27:57 PM1 votes

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Hailey Hayato9/6/2016, 5:21:59 PM1 votes

So.... Guess what. I had the pleasure to play against twitch, AGAIN. He is the one adc I keep playing against, fu*king everyone picks him when he's not banned .__. And guess what? He steamrolled us. AGAIN. I swear this piece of rat needs to be gutted. No no, scratch that. He NEEDS to be Olaf'D.

On another note, why the hell does Runaan's give crit chance? The fu*k Riot?