Malzahar should ignore unit collision with his own Voidlings

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I don't see why he shouldn't get this.

Thanks for the support. :)

Malz is OP wtf why buff him?

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and yet when you try to block your minions to force your wave closer to your tower... they shrug you off.

I once died because I was against a wall and there was 1 minion, ONE who had somehow blocked me from moving ANYWHERE

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Unit collision in general is sometimes just cancerous. I've actually died top lane because I got stuck on a wall of about 12 caster minions and had to walk around, wasting a good 3 seconds and dying to a 2v1 with the jungler.

Even pathing could use a bit of work. Too many stories to even explain the problem with that.

Imo, unit collision is important... yes, it's inconvenient, but it's an obstacle that can be used against your enemies. One special thing about Janna.

... easier change than giving Malzahar subjective unit collision immunity from a particular unit: just give the voidlings no unit collision. They shouldn't be blocking enemies anyway, plus it may make them less stupid when switching targets.

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Yeah, I had something bad happen once with voidling pathing, you get the normal ones and then you just get a really annoying one.

I was mid and shoving my lane after forcing my enemy out. I saw the enemy jungler going bot and immediately clicked on our tower to start heading down there through our jungle. Having full vision of the enemy team by this point, I wasn't even watching myself and was instead keeping watch on the battle. About 10 seconds passed before I realized I still wasn't there and neither had I been attacked- I pressed space to see what the problem was.

My voidling has turned sideways right next to the raptor camp and solidly blocked me from leaving my lane to go through the jungle; I'd spent 10 seconds clicking on that tower and not moving an inch.

That definitely happened to me recently in a game. I went to go join my team when a fight was starting and realized I still wasn't there yet, then saw my voidling blocking me out. It just seems so pointless to have him collide with his own pets.

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Especially with how crucial they are to his gameplay. A good Malz will use them to block Skillshots and then proceed to engage when the Skill was blocked. Say that skill was a Morg Binding, now you're trying to walk towards the Morg but have to dodge your minion. I agree.

Oh yes. There's no better feeling than having a voidling block a skill that would otherwise get me killed or force my flash. :D

They only want no unit collision between him and his voidling not everything else (malz stil collides with normal minions and champs), if his voidling could barrel through a wave of minions it might be a little unfair. Plus blocking your enemy with your voidling can help malz retreat

Well, it's not Malz getting unit collision immunity to all things, just to voidlings.

If Voidlings get immunity, they will be even less kite-able. Normally Malzahar must be smart with placements of voidlings, in order to allow it to chase things. Having to walk around minions gives the person about to die a chance to run, or more than he had.

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Instead of giving Malzahar ability to ignore unit collision, what if it was on his voidlings? Malzahar is slow since he is medium / long range mage who doesn't normally fight inside minion waves thus leading full time unit collision going waste. Nice to have but not really needed.

If the voidlings were able to move through units, it would prevent future issues where other champions would get void-blocked. This change would help lane farming aswell. Sometimes the voidling gets blocked by lane creeps leading the voidling shuffling around to look the best route for target.

I'm all for malz buffs, but in this case you would actually need to nerf him because early having the ability to have the voidling get on your enemy laner immediately would be super strong. If they could code it so he can only walk through voidlings that would be ideal, or at least to have them a) move out of his way, or b) have an idle walking pattern so that they can't trap you.

I'm on it black shoe!

You're serious aren't you? I-... wow. http://i.imgur.com/gp1qnmX.jpg

Unit collision. Blocked by your own voidlings as you try to hit someone, but out of range to E them. Hmm...

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you can control his voidlings somethign about casting his e. and who cares unless your going ad his voidlings to me arent really important

I care. You can control his voidlings via any damage from his skills or auto attacks, but they have priority brackets. Again, these are Malz's PETS, they should not be hindering him. And yes they are important even on AP Malz because they do a surprising amount of damage at all points of the game.

Then that Malza was bad because a good Malza can throw an E to minions to get the voidling out of himself.

How exactly is he broken or a hunk of junk?

Too late for that. :)