Just make the Last Whisper line into "big ticket" core AD items.

dangopee··1 votes·412 views

One reason tanks are so dominant right now is because no one is building item 3035item 3033item 3036 right now, not even marksmen. Often times this is because the first marksman to build the item is going to fall behind in damage against squishies and likely lose the ability to even duel the enemy marksman because the items are useless against squishies. I don't think it's necessary to increase the % pen on these items though to make them more appealing. I think all that needs to be done is just increase their price, the AD they give and give them some other appealing stat like life steal.

Lets look at an overloaded item like item 3139

It has 75 AD 10% life steal 35 MR and one of the best item actives in the game.

If Mercurial is allowed to have all that in one item, why cant item 3033 and have like 70 AD 10% life steal and its passive?

Some example numbers:

item 3035 same price and build path but 30 AD instead of 25 AD.

item 3033 and item 3036 increase price to over 3000g add item 1053 to their build path, give them 65-70 AD.

If these items had these stats would you be more compelled to build them?

15 Comments

Hayaishi21 votes

The stats are not the problem, is that LW does jack shit unless the tanks have 250+ armor.

dangopee1 votes

They are the problem. 40 AD for a 2700 item is garbage and just puts you behind against most enemies.

Hayaishi21 votes

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They are the problem. 40 AD for a 2700 item is garbage and just puts you behind against most enemies.

It puts you behind because the Armor pen bonus means jack shit. Old LW gave the same stats and it was good because the only reason we build LW is to deal with armor, which the current LW does not unless the armor is around 300.

dangopee1 votes

But I highly doubt they are going to give LW its old % total pen back so how is increasing the % bonus pen really solving anything?

ProfDrDeath1 votes

PBE has LW buffed to 45% bonus ArPen. That should help.

MohawkBird3 votes

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Hayaishi21 votes

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So you're basically saying the stats are the problem.

Yes, but it isn't fixed by giving it life steal or more AD.

disregardable1 votes

Merc Scimitar isn't overloaded. It's trying to compete with BT, and that's a tall order when I can't even build bork anymore because everything will one shot me. I used to love building bork. Now the only time I buy it is after I get BT, as a last item or so.

You want to deal something about hyperscaling tanks? Undo the stupid bork nerfs and buff the damn thing to compete like you did with scimitar. 40% bonus Apen does help kill tanks, but Voli can still wipe out 2 or 3 of my teammates before I kill him.

dangopee1 votes

Meh I have heard a lot of master/challenger tier players say on stream that it's a busted item.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

A counterbuild item should never be so strong that it is an optimal buy when you don't need it to counter something.

dangopee1 votes

You mean like item 3139 ?

ProfDrDeath1 votes

Unless you need the active, item 3072 is the superior choice.

dangopee1 votes

I see people get both a lot.

DeathBurst1 votes

Because you see Mercurial every game? Not me.

dangopee1 votes

I do.

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