Why would I ever pick Fizz over Zoe?

i cant move wtf··6 votes·2,680 views

Honest question. The way I see it her E+Q combo is better than a Fizz ult, has longer range, does more damage to tanks and is roughly 1/7 the cooldown. Is there something I'm missing?

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JustMonika136 votes

Fizz’s superior mobility + troll pole? As well as his potentially better engage if people aren’t willing to abandon the unfortunate soul about to be devoured by a shark.

Honestly I don’t mind. Fuck Fizz. There’s a special place in Hell for Fizz players.

I Cooked Nemo2 votes

Well this is awkward

Penns3 votes

happy to know riot ruined fizz for people like you to make more money :] hehe

Zed genius5 votes

Why would I ever pick Fizz over Zoe?

zoe might be banned

Vore Monster3 votes

Because Fizz annihilates Zoe and has a real and reliable escape tool.

Zoe's two big abilities are skill shots that can be minion blocked, and her sleep can be cleansed. So even if she has more potential damage, she has to do more than Fizz to get it.

i cant move wtf1 votes

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Because Fizz annihilates Zoe and has a real and reliable escape tool.

Zoe's two big abilities are skill shots that can be minion blocked, and her sleep can be cleansed. So even if she has more potential damage, she has to do more than Fizz to get it.

What does she need to escape from? You can just play her from long range. And what does she have to do more than fizz? If she lands an E on any squishy past early game it's a guaranteed 1-shot. Nevermind it's probably the longest range hard CC in the game, about .5 seconds less than a morg bind, so if you land it on anyone late game they're dead just from her team following up.

Vore Monster2 votes

She's a mid-range burst mage like Syndra, and has no escape tools. As soon as someone goes in on her like Kass or Zed, she's dead. She needs escape from engage and hard CC like any other immobile burst mage.

She also needs to land two skill shots AND have a LoS on her target just to combo. Fizz just needs to activate his auto buff and Q in, with the safety of getting out if need be.

If she lands an E on any squishy past early game it's a guaranteed 1-shot

Not really? She still needs to RQQ as well as not be blocked via long terrain, minions, or tanks doing their job.

As for the CC and them dying as soon as the team follows up... Doesn't that go for ALL CC and being caught out?

Baron Barian2 votes

When Fizz fives an enemy, he kills people. When Zoe dives, SHE dies.

Comes down if you want a diver or a burst mage.

i cant move wtf2 votes

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When Fizz fives an enemy, he kills people. When Zoe dives, SHE dies.

Comes down if you want a diver or a burst mage.

But again, why would I play fizz who usually has to wait for ult to go in unless he's massively ahead, when I can play another champ that essentially has a better version of his ult on a 5 second cd at max cdr?

Padrin2 votes

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When Fizz fives an enemy, he kills people. When Zoe dives, SHE dies.

Comes down if you want a diver or a burst mage.

Why are you diving as Zoe? [sg-lux-2]

MysterQ1 votes

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Why are you diving as Zoe? [sg-lux-2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9O4j8-kgKg

Baron Barian3 votes

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Why are you diving as Zoe? [sg-lux-2]

Because people are stupid that way.

Subject 52 votes

Fizz has way better mobility than Zoe - actually, Zoe is one of the least mobile champions in the entire GAME.

Yeah, she has R but guess what? It doesn't actually take her anywhere and forces her to stand still. She isn't invulnerable like Fizz and she has literally 1 combat ability compared to Fizz's Q,W,E,R combat abilities.

I Cooked Nemo1 votes

Fizz sucks ass vs tanks. So no

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Because Fizz actually has better mobility, invincibility, mobility, target access, mobility, and, I almost forgot, mobility.

TruelyTrueTrueth1 votes

its easier to dodge

Tactrix1 votes

Because zoe doesn't have a shark.

Sirsir1 votes

Its almost as if theres more to the game than damage. Like invulnerability, mobility, etc

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