I have two ideas for what green buff could be:
Significantly lowers the cooldown on warding-totem/sweeper.
Grants an effect similar to Duskblade where you have a kind of permanent ward sense while the buff is active (like smiting raptor camp in season 6).
Share any other ideas for what green buff could be, I'd like to hear them.
Oleandervine23 votesIt would have to be something a lot weaker than this. Vision control is POWERFUL, and considering there are 2 crabs that are both in contested territory, it would have to be a buff that's one time use so it doesn't make junglers steamroll and ruin vision just because they killed one. After all, not only does the Scuttler give gold and XP, it also gives you a speedbuff/river ward as well as heals you when you kill it. If those properties are to still exist, you can't have a crazy strong buff too.
i cant move wtf1 votesYeah I was thinking in place of the exp and large sum of gold. Something more balanced as you say. I think the vision theme goes with the green color so still something vision-oriented. Vision is hard to quantify though so it's hard to say what would be strong/weak.
CIayman1 votes[{quoted}](name=i cant move wtf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kdZLKqHQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-05T16:40:06.453+0000)
Vision is hard to quantify
Vision score exists, you know
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=i cant move wtf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kdZLKqHQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-05T16:40:06.453+0000)
Yeah I was thinking in place of the exp and large sum of gold. Something more balanced as you say. I think the vision theme goes with the green color so still something vision-oriented. Vision is hard to quantify though so it's hard to say what would be strong/weak.
It may be specifically hard to quantify, but having vision of more of the map allows you to have awareness of the enemy team, and thus avoid ganks, know when to take objectives, and when to ambush them. This denies them gold, gives you gold, gives you objectives, and allows you to strategize and plot around your enemies. That's immensely powerful in a fog of war game, even if it's not easily quantifiable. Denying enemies those advantages that vision offers is STRONG, because vision is the #1 way to avoid death in this game.
i cant move wtf1 votesI'm actually in agreement with you that vision is very powerful. I just meant it's hard to quantify, therefore its hard to formulate what a balanced vision buff would be.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=i cant move wtf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kdZLKqHQ,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2018-10-05T21:17:21.302+0000)
I'm actually in agreement with you that vision is very powerful. I just meant it's hard to quantify, therefore its hard to formulate what a balanced vision buff would be.
Well, it would have to be something like the passive of Duskblade - a one and done deal that has enough time to block and let you clear one ward, maybe 2, and that's it.
i cant move wtf1 votesWell, it would have to be something like the passive of Duskblade - a one and done deal that has enough time to block and let you clear one ward, maybe 2, and that's it.
Yeah I could see that being balanced.
Just spitballing here but what if it reduced the cooldown of totem/sweeper by something like 50% and increased the duration of any wards/sweeps by 15%? This would mean at level 1, over the course of the 2 minute buff, you would regenerate 1 full warding totem charge (instead of half a charge), and a ward placed during the buff would last 104 seconds (instead of 90.) If you have sweeper instead, you will regenerate 2.6 sweeps (instead of 1.3), with each sweep lasting 11.5 seconds (instead of 10). If you had farsight alteration, you would regenerate 1.2 charges (instead of 0.6), and it would reveal an area for 5.75 seconds (instead of 5).
Maybe those numbers are a bit high but that seems like another angle a vision buff could take.
LeftyRaydy9 votesWell if there was a Pokemon Red, Blue, green, and now there is close to 150 champions....
Glaricion1 votesOh god, who is going to be Mew?
What's that? 150 is going to be Zelos and 151 is going to be Kassadin's daughter?
I COULD JUST TRACK YOU DOWN AND SMOOCH YOU RAYDY, COULD JUST TRACE YOUR IP TO GIVE YOU A SMOOCH
[sg-lux]
LeftyRaydy1 votesAwe I am totally not creeped out at all <3
rubberduckie6668 voteshow about we just reintroduce smite buffs back into the game? ya know, like how when smiting gromp you basically got a thornmail for a bit to help with tanky junglers clear and the such?
RookPusher4 votesIt should allow you to play your knife like a tin whistle and summon a dragon
WeaselRune2 votesNormally... Id consider this a shit post... and request that the person who posted be dragged out and flogged as and example not to shit post, but their is a certain quality to this one. In addition I was greatly amused... Ill allow it!
RookPusher2 votesNormally... Id consider this a shit post... and request that the person who posted be dragged out and flogged as and example not to shit post, but their is a certain quality to this one. In addition I was greatly amused... Ill allow it!
Thanks, my brother.
Any time something is both new and green I can't help but make this connection.
Bears Dont Care1 votesIt should allow you to play your knife like a tin whistle and summon a dragon
Its a dagger, played like a flute, sounds like a trumpet, that is blown through a mask.
RookPusher1 votes[{quoted}](name=Bears Dont Care,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kdZLKqHQ,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2018-10-08T18:59:59.981+0000)
Its a dagger, played like a flute, sounds like a trumpet, that is blown through a mask.
At 8, I didn't much care. It summoned a dragon, man. I wasn't thinking "they way they get that robo-dragon doesn't add up"
Though it's a little funny that it so obviously doesn't make any fucking sense.
BLACK REALM GOD3 voteskilling skuttle should give "river king"
which makes you move faster in the river and then they should remove the runes that do that from the rune tree and replace them with something mage-y
L Rayquaza1 votes
Wert the Wacky3 votesThis just makes me miss smite buffs.
the shushi2 votesHP and mana regen for 1 min
Colton1472 votes
TrikzterzArma2 votesGrants 15% increased movement speed when moving towards an enemy champ. Lasts 2 seconds and is consumed when the haste is over
Edit. Or maybe 1 second, or it becomes too powerful
gabetheguy1 votesplease tell me you aren't being serious
DarukongSr2 votesGrants 15% increased movement speed when moving towards an enemy champ. Lasts 2 seconds and is consumed when the haste is over
Edit. Or maybe 1 second, or it becomes too powerful
I don't know man, ganks are already strong as is, and if you play immobile champs like me, then that would just be oppressive. Imagine the boost graves, eve, and Kayne alone would receive, and they are already plenty strong.
ZackTheWaffleMan2 votesmaybe when moving towards an allied champ, or 2+ enemy champions? could help counterganking
ApollyonBainer2 votesMove speed increase in the jg/river. Allows counter jg and stuff. Instead of just the small circle in front of baron/drag
Hong Kong Annie2 votesGreen buff was already a thing in the old 3s map. Getting would give the player a small movement speed increase and if I remember correctly health regen.
*edit nvm I was wrong. Green buff gave attack speed and CDR, it was the white buff that gave the movement speed.
jocomotion2 votesSlowly rising Bonus armor/mr while in combat with a champion/large/epic monster, maxing out after say 5 seconds and resetting after not being in combat for 3 seconds.
Kosm1K2 votesDoes anyone remember green buff? There used to be a green buff back in old twisted treeline. It would give attack speed and crit chance. I think it should give white buff, which if i remember right, gave movement speed
Leto GT1 votesAnything but that amount of gold and exp tbh. It's so frustrating when your laner are pushed or don't give a fuck. You can litteraly lose our jungle on that stupid thing. I would be more than happy if it woudl give an actual movement bonus speed to help for ganks or something based on mov speed.
Rıots Bad Client1 votesWhat about reduces the Cooldown of your camps respawn rate by like...15 seconds?
Or maybe more. so you can get a blue/red. and your other camps ups more early.
And if you get both the crabs, you'd have a plentiful Jung, but more likily to have more jung fights on your end.
(And its a buff that laners cant abuse)
Bob the Toastr1 votesI think that is a good idea. Number 1 would be fine, you'd just have to tune the CDR based on game data. Number 2 would be alright as long as it is consumed the first time you see a ward (like duskblade is). If it was permanent (for whatever duration it lasted), that would be really strong.
AstroFerrari 1 votesI absolutely LOVEEE this idea!!! Take my upvote and my couch :D
SonOfMedusa1 votesi like the idea does seem a little overpowered tough
