I think this needs to make a comeback.

Leafie·Mar 9, 2015·96 votes·4,087 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxAabW7JfTQ

40 Comments

SaiannaMar 9, 201510 votes

I don't think it's possible to remove Meta or simply return to innocence of new players.. I still remember my first game.. God i was awful.. And it was so fun to play cause my opponents weren't any better...

Oh boy.. My eyes are sweating

LeafieMar 9, 20151 votes

Me too, friend.

MimyMar 10, 20151 votes

Glenda from Once upon a time: Innocence reclaimed is just as powerful as innocence born.

Not impossible if the person is willing to change.. But a person who is willing to change is a rare thing....

SaiannaMar 10, 20151 votes

But innocence which came of not knowing cannot be reclaimed.

Unless you agree with massaging your brain with electricy.

And i prefer knowing what's my name, who my parents are and my password for fap folder

MimyMar 10, 20151 votes

I used to be pretty bad, I had gotten quite a foul mouth on me, and I used to look at things in a very dirty way....

But I decided I wanted to change that I started watching more things for children, I guess you could say melting my brain... I also did some other things.. but in the end.. My potty mouth ceased and my mind became cleaner. I guess there's no way to gain back 100% innocence.. but you can change back a little bit for the better..

SaiannaMar 10, 20151 votes

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I used to be pretty bad, I had gotten quite a foul mouth on me, and I used to look at things in a very dirty way....

But I decided I wanted to change that I started watching more things for children, I guess you could say melting my brain... I also did some other things.. but in the end.. My potty mouth ceased and my mind became cleaner. I guess there's no way to gain back 100% innocence.. but you can change back a little bit for the better..

Oh by innocence you meant more of fixing foul mouth? I can shut my lips tight and just silently watch how trolls wreck havoc in my games. You could say i've compressed all my negative feelings into small back hole.

And fixing myself is allright, but Riot doesn't care to help us fixing their playerbase... So what if we behave OK, if noone wants to follow our footsteps....

ThryaleMar 10, 20151 votes

I think the point of the message is to relinquish our cynicism and give ppl the benefit of the doubt. Not just once a match, but again and again and again. Lie to yourself if you have to, but if you do it enough eventually you'll believe it.

ScorpoisonMar 10, 20151 votes

Glinda, from wicked: Is one born wicked? or is wickedness thrust upon them?

MimyMar 10, 20151 votes

Evil isn't born.. Not wicked, from "Once upon a time" its a TV show.. Even In the musical Wicked. She wasn't always Wicked.

ScorpoisonMar 10, 20151 votes

I know Once upon a time is a tv show, im not a dunce
I was just providing a quote because I like Wicked and it went along with 'Glenda' as you say
Glinda isn't ever considered Wicked...Its Elphaba who is considered Wicked from the moment she was born (both in the musical and the book)

StephenizgodMar 10, 20151 votes

The meta can be removed quite easily but no one is willing to do it. Me and my friends ignore the meta all the time, every game its what we want to play not what the meta needs. Garen and Jarvan bot lane? Hell yeah. Jinx and Xin bot lane? Why not. Lucian mid double AP bot? Its pretty good. Xerath and Annie? works really good.

Does this remove the meta? No it doesnt help at all, but what does help is everyone not yelling at us for it, not giving up before the game starts, not telling the other team to report us and then purposely feeding our lanes to make it look like we did bad. That is how you change the meta. Maybe in Ranked its too soon to be trying this stuff but in Normals it should become Normal, i know that people want to practice champions and us playing off meta might hurt that but you never know what may work unless you try stuff. We know ADC and Supp works bot lane, but what else works? Well double AP stuns works really well, Fighter and Marksmen work really well, Tanks with hard engage work really well.

doublelift fgMar 9, 20156 votes

the title makes no sens but i feel the same

LeafieMar 9, 201522 votes

The video needs to make a comeback.

It surged in popularity and then it died down.

ThryaleMar 10, 20151 votes

I'd never seen this vid before, thx op.

NinjaFiferMar 10, 20151 votes

The voice part has been around since at least season 2, but it's been edited with new gameplay footage a couple times.

ThryaleMar 10, 20152 votes

wow, that's.... kinda sad if what he said held true for 3 full seasons in a row. :/

NinjaFiferMar 10, 20151 votes

This community has always had its toxicity. Every game does, but it's especially bad here in the F2P realm.

MimyMar 10, 20153 votes

I only saw this video 6 months ago... and Ive only been playing for a year.

I guess Im sorta new and I lold at the item 3031 on Annie because I actually went ADC Annie.. Granted I failed many times but there was one game I went 6/0! and it was amazing! xD

Im not really toxic more or less do I like to try things.. Unique thing.. Ive gone 24/2 as a Gnar ADC many times, but no one will give me a chance anymore..

My weirdest build for Gnar .. item 3078 item 3143 item 3006 item 3085 item 3074 item 3065 Soo much damage in both forms at full build T-T the attack speed as mega gnar is horrifying coupled with the Hydra passive.. doesn't matter which order you get the stuff in as long as you build the things when you need them...

I don't try this stuff in ranked.. I play this stuff in normal TEAM BUILDER where it doesn't really even matter..

Sure, I guess its slightly trolling, but I don't hide what I'm doing. I play team builder, people agree to what im doing by pressing the ready button..

But what if.. from those 100 games of failure of trying things.. I get that 1 game where I discover something no one else has thought of? What if it was over powered? Would I still be a troll? Or am I someone who just likes to try new things and build upon what I learned to try something else?

I don't do much interesting stuff anymore.. No one trusts me to try fun things..

NinjaFiferMar 10, 20152 votes

See, the thing about teambuilder is that you can be doing something totally unrelated to the role you've chosen. Gnar at least fits the ADC roll decently, but I've had some straight up stupid comps run that I said "ready" to because their standard builds would have worked. Specifically, I ran into a team that had a Maokai and Anivia bottom lane duo. I was all like, sure. CC burst kill lane. Sweet. They BOTH ended up going full ADC builds and just got absolutely stomped into the ground the whole game. They also left our team with no AP, so we lost the game very heavily overall. Sometimes breaking the Meta is cool, but sometimes you just have to look at a champ and realize that there's no viable way that it can work.

At the very least, if you're gong to do something actually stupid, and not just weird-but-could-work, let people know. I know there's no way to know it won't work unless you try, but give people a heads up before you trap them in your game and refuse to surrender.

MimyMar 10, 20151 votes

Oh i dont hide it, what did the anivia maokai things say? if they both said mage then well they tricked you and if your trying something stupid thats rude to do to your teammates, If I do something weird, I atleast put the actual thing im building/going..

if im going gnar marksman.. that's exactly what im doing.. building marksman..

Hiding it i think is just as rude as pulling out a surprise in blind pick.

im beginning to know that alot of the things i tried were pretty stupid, and i wanna try more different smarter things..

if im gonna go something stupid.. I ask myself to think of ways this would benefit the champion in some way..

Like AD/attack speed lulu might work because of her passive.. but would she be better as an AP attack speed like teemo or build ardent censor as a support granting her adc attack speed and a shield. like whats better for them but what could work?

FUNNY THING.. Ardent censor, if you shield yourself as lulu, doesn't increase your attack speed.. i got sad.. because you know that probably would of been a bit OP xD

Ill thing of something worth trying sooner or later... I was thinking of trying AP tristana when echo comes out.. its not impossible to have a good game as that but it comes rarely.. and the only way to pull off melting damage is if you do the full stacks combo.. E + Q 4 Charges + W. its hard to pull off but not impossible, I find that she may be an even more high risk high reward after rework because Sometimes When I pulled it of and killed the enemy mid laner (I actually bested an Ahri early game) I was about to die.. but sometimes I get too scared to try to make that risk.. But those few times I pulled it off.. the reward was worth...

I also wanna try TP on tristana, If the Q buff comes to Live. and see how much lane pressure I can put on the enemy team because as you know.. tristana eats turrets..

Oh my there I go again with my blabbing.. .-.

NinjaFiferMar 11, 20151 votes

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Oh i dont hide it, what did the anivia maokai things say? if they both said mage then well they tricked you and if your trying something stupid thats rude to do to your teammates, If I do something weird, I atleast put the actual thing im building/going..

I actually don't bother looking at the stated roles of the first guy, or first couple in the case of pre-mades. The vast majority of people I find who captained a team put some weird role down because it doesn't matter at all for Teambuilder. They can put down Bottom Tank for all Teambuilder cares, they started the team so they don't have to be truthful to get picked up.

ShosukoMar 10, 20153 votes

Some things you just can't have. The reason everyone was a noob then was because so many people were ignorant. Now we know, we've learned, and we've shared. There was no meta because there was no competitive challenge. In every competitive venue there is a meta. This exists across all sports and all games.

You can't forget what you know just to experience something new again.

The problem we face though is that as much as players KNOW MORE about league, they aren't any better for it. There are many things I know about the champs I play and the champs I'm against, it still doesn't make me a better player. This is true for everyone on both teams. Everyone knows what they should be doing, and down here in bronze we're all doing it wrong. Some are doing it more wrong than others, but we all know what's right. Because we know what's right, and we're blinded by the adrenaline and fury when we're clicking, but calm afterwords to observe others, we always develop a strongly bias view.

Certainly the community needs more positive perspectives. Players respecting each other, and witnessing our own abilities and limitations. It's tough though, and you can't change others, all you can do is focus yourself. Try to be honest to yourself and improve. Try to forgive others and let go of what they might say. Gold, platinum, whatever tier you're at there is something you're going to do wrong, there is something you're going to see someone else do wrong. Don't judge.

DanakroydMar 10, 20153 votes

I had to log in and make my first post to just say this is amazing, and oddly heartbreaking.

AMYS GRAVEMar 9, 20152 votes

This needs to be seen by every player.

The LasherMar 10, 20152 votes

I agree with everything that is said in this video. The league community needs to change. It needs to change for the better. Somewhere along the elo many people forgot that they're playing other people. The hatred is just out of control. It saddens me and truly can be the most stressful point of my day.

We can become better than this. Lets be better. End Toxicity. Remember people are here to play. For the win. For the loss. Just be human.

2 much sauuuceMar 10, 20152 votes

Amazingly awesome video. And I love that phrase near the end of it.

"I already have 5 enemies on the other side, why should I have to deal with 4 more on mine?"

Brutal TeddyMar 9, 20151 votes

I love this so much

OhOkYeaMar 9, 20151 votes

inb4 this is downvoted and flamed by all the kiddos that think it's ok to rage at team mates for their own mistakes

lDontLiftIcarryMar 9, 20151 votes

the innocence of a new player. Ahh the teleport ashe arrow games... The full ad with phantom dancers alistar... full ap top nunu

RamboDash15Mar 10, 20151 votes

I guess the reason I keep playing is because a part of me deep inside hopes for another game where I'm smiling the whole way through. Through every failed tower dive, through every success, through anything and everything, smiling. Smiling not because I know I'll win; but smiling because we're all having fun.