http://i.imgur.com/PX3DpFa.png http://i.imgur.com/Xg1GDaD.png http://i.imgur.com/sX2suqz.png http://i.imgur.com/npM8d9U.png http://i.imgur.com/DDM6aLi.png http://i.imgur.com/bB6SS7v.png http://i.imgur.com/PT5DXeZ.png http://i.imgur.com/Zxt5MRI.png
Upgrades are 1000g added onto the item (500g for Locket and Redemption) So when you get the base item it only 1000 (500) more gold to have Ornn upgrade it
Ahristocats3 votesredemption one sucks
rabadon and triforce are beyond busted
UnboundHades2 votesUntil you notice rabadon is almost 5k gold
Solari Fortune1 votesIt only 1K extra if you already have DeathCap
UnboundHades1 votesBut death cap already is a huge investment if you aren't veiger you could only get this while fed,late game, or messing up your build path
50000000000000002 votesWell yeah, and Ornn upgrades are generally only useful late game.
Revali1 votespersonally I think redemption is a little bit busted considering it scales within itself and gets tripled I think.
Mysticman891 votesRedemption itself is fine. The upgrade from redemption to salvation doesn't offer much of value however.
50000000000000001 votesUpgrading Redemption into Salvation doesn't really affect Redemption active. HP is kinda nice. HP regen is mostly unnecessary, and additional mana regen is likely overkill until you get Athene's (which is still situational).
Mysticman891 votesMain, "TF" as an abbreviation is already confusing enough with 'the f***', twisted fate, trinity force, some fancy challenger player, (probably a few more I'm forgetting) and now trinity fusion.
I knew they wouldn't add new effects, but I was kinda hoping they'd buff the existing passive effects instead of just giving bigger numbers. I don't really need more regen and stuff from redemption since I'm almost entirely buying it for the active and the heal/shield power (sortof cdr but that comes from many places) for example, so thats kinda meh when I could be getting slightly better scaling on the redemption active itself.
For those who are buying their respective items for the stats themselves though, they're tasty. Dunno how the gold efficiency works out compared to buying components of another item instead.
Noxian Pride1 votesHave some stuff I nabbed
For a start, a screenshot that compares the stats of base vs upgraded
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174177388027052032/344679618164555777/unknown.png
Secondly...
ABILITIES Q: Deals base 20/50/80/110/140 (+total AD) physical damage Slows for base 40/45/50/55/60% (2 seconds), Magma pillar forms roughly 3 seconds after cast. Lasts for 4 seconds, does not increase per rank, fixed distance Base 9/8.5/8/7.5/7 CD Base mana cost 55/60/65/70/75
W: Shields for 12% max HP, does not increase per rank Deal 15/17.5/20/22.5/25% currenthp magic damage Has minimum damage. Base 80/130/180/230/280 Inflicts Brittle for 6 seconds, does not increase per rank Base 12/11/10/9/8 CD, Base mana cost 45/50/55/60/65
E: Charge deals base 20/40/60/80/100 (+40% total armor scaling, +40% total MR scaling) If he hits terrain, shockwave deals base 40/80/120/160/200 (armor/MR scaling unchanged) Base 16/15/14/13/12 CD Destroys player-made terrain Base mana cost 60, does not change per rank
R: Base 125/175/225 magic damage Base 40/60/80% slow for 2 seconds Inflicts Brittle for 6 seconds, does not increase per rank If Ornn smashes into ram and it hits an enemy, it does base 125/175/225 magic damage again If post-smashed ram hits enemy, it knocks them up for 1.5 seconds Base CD 150/115/80
Brittle is a new sort-of-CC. If you're hit by CC while affected by Brittle, Brittle is consumed and the CC lasts 30% longer
BASE STATS (I wanted to make this simpler but his scalings are fucking weird and idk how to calculate them) 335 MS 175 Attack range .625 (+.006-ish/level) Attack Speed. I don't know the exact calculation but at 18 you have 0.76
60/62/65/68/71/74/77/80/83/87/90/94/98/102/106/110/115/119 AD
24/26/28/31/33/36/39/41/44/47/50/54/57/60/64/67/71/75 Armor
32/33/34/35/36/37/38/39/41/42/43/44/46/47/49/50/52/53 MR
566/627/692/759/829/902/978/1057/1139/1224/1312/1403/1497/1594/1694/1797/1902/2011 HP
1.4 HP regen/second, +(roughly)0.1 per level. 3.5 at 18
300/333/366/402/439/478/518/560/603/???/695/743/793/844/897/951/1008/1065 Mana
1.6 Mana regen/second, +(roughly)0.1 per level. 3.6 at 18
Noxian Pride1 votesAs a random separate thing: The Darius player in me could see that cleaver upgrade being a violent winmore. If I'm ahead in lane I can nab that and get back all the AD we lost the past few patches, plus some HP.
