I know Akali is getting reworked but why do people hate her?

N63··1 votes·1,643 views

Q - A point and click ability that does barely any damage on its own and if procc'd does some burst damage. W - Zha'zix R in a small area that slows enemies. E - A small AOE that does Physical Damage and refreshes 60% of the cooldown if it kills anything. R - A mobility spell that does like 50 AD lv 1, has 3 uses before going on cooldown, gains a use for every takedown/assist.

Her Q is the only REAL damage in her kit, it's what makes her an assassin, E does barely any damage because she will be building AP 99% of the time.

Her W is just there to help her NOT be blown to bits in teamfights, she is NOT in stasis, NOT invurnerable and CAN be CC'd, be damaged by AOE and Skillshots, it only is there to serve as a untargetability aoe for a some time, saying "We should be able to spend a 75 gold item to find her" is stupid, you shouldn't be able to remove the only outplay potential in a Champion's kit for 75 gold.

Her E is just a waveclear ability, it doesn't proc Q as far as I know.

Her R is literally only a mobility spell, don't bother saying "but it does 50 damage" wow 50 whole damage. And it's not like Yasuo E, it has a cooldown and 3 uses, if she can't kill you or get an assist she wasted one of her uses. It takes 30 seconds at rank 1 to get just 1 use back. So if she screws up, R's in, R's out she has to wait a minute to even be useful again (without being blown to bits if she goes in with just 1 R charge).

Here's an easy way to check if you're going to be all in'd.

  1. Is she level 6?
  2. Does she have Hextech Revolver?
  3. Am I below 75%?
  4. Do I currently have a mark on me?

If you're an ADC, just be cautious around lvs 4-5 because mid gains more exp than you, and DO NOT PUSH if Akali is MIA because your support can't do anything for you (Unless it's Bard, Soraka with CDR, or Taric or you're Vayne with R) because you will be ASSASSINATED before they can help you.

16 Comments

Marshbouy2 votes

People hate her because she auto-wins lane at level six and before the targeted spell changes she could harass with her Q with 0 retaliation.

Plus her 3 charges on her R make it super hard to get away from her.

GeNeSisman2 votes

Because after a certain point it feels like you can't do anything to outplay her, she has her shroud and then her q and r are targeted with her e being a point blank, the greatest skill expression you can have against her is to cc her or stay away from her and if you fail to do so you die. It's not fun to play against that, there are champs that just downright beat her and that isn't fun for Akali.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

She's not broken. She's just annoying to fight, and a bitch to get away from.

Morgy Morgy1 votes

i just hate her fucking sustain. it's actual aids. both her passive and her W letting her just do fuck all until she decides to go in.

Done251 votes

She has huge burst sustain, her most of her damage is targeted, and she's nearly impossible to escape if she starts snowballing. That's basically it. Low counter play that results in the most toxic form of stat checking.

Ranmaru1 votes

She has no counterplay

Space Ac3 1 votes

Bullshit. where's your proof?

Ranmaru1 votes

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Bullshit. where's your proof?

you can only hit her with non point and click abilities in her shroud cant be revealed cant be poked out of lane easily has decent waveclear and impossible to kite

only way to beat akali right now is to out stat check her

Kurt Hyzan1 votes

Still wondering why does Diana require to hit her Q in order to reset her R, when Akali has 3 charges on it and reset upon killing an enemy

Frontline Fury1 votes

The issue is that her passive + Q combo is a stat check monster. The only champion that has even any slight hope of surviving her combo post 6 is the top laner, and even then if Akali has ignite they’ll probably die too.

Now, what pushes her out of Fiora and Camille’s «oppressively strong but not uncounterable» domain and into duo mid Yi’s «game breaking» domain is said stat check burst combined with all the following facts:

Skill set naturally synergizes with sustain items that provide both insane burst damage, stat scaling and durability

No mana costs, extremely low cooldowns = Pantheon style laning play

Point & click spells means you cant win a duel through positioning

Hybrid damage, hybrid scaling = extremely difficult, inefficient and expensive to build items against

Extremely long range dash that deals bonus damage, places her on the other side of the victim, applies spell effects like healing and holds multiple charges

And ultimately what makes her one of the most unfair champions in the game to play against

Invisibility zone with extreme duration, low cooldown, a short range blink, an absurd movement speed boost that also slows opponents.

In essence, the champion:

Has very high item efficiency, with high build flexibility - gains much more strength from items it builds than most other champions in the game. Can also build and effectively utilize nearly all the items in the game. Zhonya’s hourglass practically eliminates window of opportunity between stealth shrouds.

Has low outplay potential / skill requirement - while i’m not claiming she has no learning curve or skill potential, champion is extremely, extremely much harder to play against than it is to play. Where the akali player can easily enter the double digit kill score with very little practice, thinking, decision making or timing, her opponent needs to be quite a lot better at the game overall to even stand a chance at any counterplay. A gold player can typically make platinum and even low diamond players struggle through stat checks alone.

Snowball power - like every stat check champion and hybrid champion; almost impossible to shut down if ahead, because she can build new items faster than her opponents, which links together with item efficiency detailed above to propel her even further ahead. Opponents already have to build hybrid resistances - while Akali stacks damage, opponents need to somehow find gold for THREE resistance types* BESIDES their core build.

Indistinxt class, jack of all trades - where she is certainly an assassin, she operates more like a sustained duelist, skirmisher AND burst mage all at the same time - and with a defensive item or two, a drain tank and a diver.

Wannabe juggernaut - Like Illaoi, Nasus and Cho’gath her counterplay often boils down to «outnumber her» which means any true team fight is inherently lopsided in Akali’s favour. You need multiple people to take her down even if the player is not particularly good, which opens her team up to having other powerhouses that require numbers over skill to take down. She is much more durable than any other assassin in the game, being the only decent challenger to tank ekko back in season 5 and tank Katarina in season 6.

Panic button that solves everything - As she does not have freeform mobility like Ekko or non-takedown resets like Katarina she’s not quite as unbalanced as they once were - but in return she has one of the most toxic gameplay patterns in the game thanks to her shroud, which lets her repeatedly pop in and out of untargetability whenever she needs to. Using this spell is never, ever a bad idea - there’s no decision making, no tradeoff. Want to cross a wall? W. Losing a trade? W. Want to poke/farm in lane? W. Getting ganked? W. Spells on cooldown? W. Want to run away? W.

Her shroud is an ability there are only TWO ways to reliably counter. 1: pick twisted fate and use his extremely long cooldown ult to reveal her and 2: pick kleptomancy and hope that RNG lands you an oracle’s elixir. Both of these are not just playstyle defining methods but can potentially be game defining. Akali’s primary counterplay revolves around her opponents being FORCED to change and tailor their entire play style, build and game plan JUST to her presence alone. Riot has deliberately moved away from these things in the past, but not with Akali as they simply couldnt see any way to fix these problems without a full gameplay rework.

Tl;dr akali has an extremely unhealthy playstyle that is something like crossing Fizz, Jax and Katarina.

*health, armor and magic resistance

Space Ac3 1 votes

Panic button that solves everything - As she does not have freeform mobility like Ekko or non-takedown resets like Katarina she’s not quite as unbalanced as they once were - but in return she has one of the most toxic gameplay patterns in the game thanks to her shroud, which lets her repeatedly pop in and out of untargetability whenever she needs to. Using this spell is never, ever a bad idea - there’s no decision making, no tradeoff. Want to cross a wall? W. Losing a trade? W. Want to poke/farm in lane? W. Getting ganked? W. Spells on cooldown? W. Want to run away? W.

 I can see what your saying as a Akali![Akali](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Akali.png)  main myself.  I don't believe you can just use Akali's w at anytime. It like any other ability has counter play. For Ex. lets say your Zoe![Zoe](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Zoe.png)  and Akali![Akali](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Akali.png) just used her w. 
  • You can use a pink warditem 2055 to see where she is or try to hit her with your sleep spell.

  • You could just gank her in the early game.

  • You could buy a stopwatchitem 2420 and wait for her to waste her Q, Then cc her.

  • You not feed her in the first place.

    What I'm trying to said is Akali is a very underpowered champ if you know how to stop her .

Its All Skillzz1 votes

Point click 3 gap closer burst that has sustain and stealth lol thats why.

HowlingWarwick1 votes

fun fact: CertainlyT is working on her rework, he's the one that made darius' rework, yasuo and zoe. i expect akali to be fucked up

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

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fun fact: CertainlyT is working on her rework, he's the one that made darius' rework, yasuo and zoe. i expect akali to be fucked up

Oh no.

Please god why.

N631 votes

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fun fact: CertainlyT is working on her rework, he's the one that made darius' rework, yasuo and zoe. i expect akali to be fucked up

I think CertainlyT's champions are fun but he definitely shouldn't be the one balancing them. Zoe having 200 true damage lv 3 with E is broken as fuck for a ranged assassin.

Modl Ryden l1 votes

Your average boards poster:

sees champion dash 100 units

#"R E E E E E E E ! ! ! !"

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