Like, in the past bunch of games I've played, my team has insisted on picking non tanky supports, junglers and top laners when I'm trying to play Mid/ADC... and it never feels like I can do anything because we usually end with 0 initiation
Is there just something I'm missing here?
Chamuel855 votesTanky supports aren't a great 'front liner' if they're the only one. They don't have the gold income to become truly tanky. It's also not like mid laners can't be tanky (
) or that adc/mid can't bring initiation (
)
Kempachi Taichou1 votes^^This, if people just understood this!
Ralanr4 votesBecause people want to carry and tanks aren't carries.
Though honestly I can't imagine not grabbing at least a fighter. Without a frontline a team usually falls apart in teamfights.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesHonestly, I'm pretty sure this is why tanks tend to have fairly high win-rates in solo-queue.
While tanks might not be overpowered, having even a single one while everyone else in the game is a squishy damage-dealer can be extremely influential.
Ralanr1 votesIt really is. Actually having someone to lockdown targets, protect you, and engage drastically improves your chances IMO.
MLDzXnRRR3 votesTanks and tank items were nerfed to the ground, because the ADC and Assasins were using tank items . I don't see a reason to pick any tank top when the ranged toplaner like Gnar, Jayce, Vlad or any other meta champion can shove and destroy me while I try to farm under tower.
ADepressedLeona1 votesWell I'd be fine with any of those champions. All of them can set up initiations, I'm talking more along the lines of people picking Kha jungle and Teemo top and then no one picks anyone with any durability and then we get rolled the entire game
Sire Hippington2 votesActually, yes, frontlines aren't very great right now, atleast in high elos. It's all about getting early map-controll, and for that you need a strong early jungler and dominant lanes. Frontline champs usually have a not that great early jungle(the best you get is reksai, and she's not that great as frontline) and generally have issues in lane vs ranged champs and rumble, which are very popular. Same bot, if played well, 2ranged>ranged+melee at bot.
However, since full squishy teamcomps are harder to execute and get punished harder for mistakes, going for squishy comps in soloQ isn't smart, especially in low elos. Which is why tanks usually have a good winrate, cause for soloQ haveing a frontline usually is a big advantage.
Hyperiön1 votesThe only way you will win a game like that is if you get picks. You are basically playing a pick/poke comp.
Branagen1 votesI've noticed lately that almost everyone is going ap non-tank support and jg and/or top are playing higher dmg, lower durability champs. It's frustrating as someone mentioned because if you're the only tanky player that can frontline, you're getting nuked every team fight.
This is so much a problem if the team gets ahead early and can pressure enough to end before the end of mid game.
dominusx1 votesbecause there are people like me who care more about having fun playing their champions rather building up an insane teamcomp for our adc to melt. why would i pick a gay tank when i can get my lil boy Graves and start oneshoting people lvl 6 with red smite. dont expect well organised teamcomps outdie high diamond man.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesAnd this is why i play tanky top laners and supports.
Becusee somehow i know the rest of my team wants to carry all at once.
Yaskamasandwich1 votesThere is no more front line really. It's more of whom engages on whom well and burst the other team down. Champions like Mundo and Singed don't work really well anymore who relied on front lines taunting the enemy to burn ultimates on them so that their team can counter act.
Due to the insanity of both damage and cdr there is no such thing as wasted damage. Gone is the quote of "don't focus fire the tank." As of now when at late game, or if you're fed, you can burst down a tank that steps ahead of their team even a little, and becomes erased in 2 to 3 seconds.