Last two games, just confirmed what I already know. It's not possible to get out Bronze 5. For every game where you get a good team, you get a horrible team that in-fights, afks, doesn't push, no map awareness ect..... For those people saying I should be able to carry 1 vs 5 in almost all cases. Dumbest crap ever. No logic behind that. What do they the enemy 5 is doing while I am attempting to do that? Waiting for me to do it? Get real!
TraakSC5 votesNo one has ever gotten out of Bronze V.
edit: Looked at your game history. here My god. There are some games where you dont even have a trinket.
Lyless1 votesNo one has ever gotten out of Bronze V.
edit: Looked at your game history. here My god. There are some games where you dont even have a trinket.
When I am playing 4 vs 5 and have to go from jg to bot or jg to mid. I will forget some things, but a trinket would have had little effect in that game. Get real. Look up there game history, not just mine!
TraakSC3 votesYeah wards are useless in games. Got it.
Dreadlocks4 votes"Excuses are like assholes, everyone has them" but no seriously man. Stop focusing on everyone else's mistakes and start looking at your own. If you can grow as a player, you will rank up. You may not think so because you are still focused on the idea that having a feeding teammate means you lose by default. But if you start thinking about all the little things you could've done better, you could probably get out of bronze 5 within a week.
Example: 1) its no big deal i dont have a trinket, they have little effective in the game. -Wrong, if you have an upgraded yellow trinket + a pink ward thats 3 wards you can have on the map all the time for pretty much the cost of upgrading your trinket for 250 gold.. More vision = less people getting caught.
3)I missed my ult, but its okay so did my teammate in a previous team fight. -Wrong, If you wan't to win the game, dont make these mistakes. Don't make excuses or try to justify your feelings by comparing them to someone else on your team. YOU made the mistake, you are equally at fault for the loss.
4)I'm fed and i tried to make a big play but failed but its okay my team is feeding they are lucky to have me and should cut me some slack: Wrong-, I could be 25-2-15 in a game while the rest of my team is struggling, it is MY job to carry them since I have the farm, if I fuck up, I could cost the team the game. Regardless of how well my team is doing or not, they are depending on me to use my gold wisely, so don't be careless once you obtain a lead.
I Know you didn't say anything about 3 of these points, but I know people do it all the time, I went on tilt, went from s2 to s5 in 1 night, my MMR was so trash i was getting 11LP a win and losing 29LP, I was playing with bronze 4 players in a few of my games I KNOW what it's like. Think about these points.. Think about yourself.. And don't worry about your teamates mistakes. You guys all make an equal amount of mistakes, that is why you are all in the same ELO. Think of your rank as the amount of mistakes you make rather than how good you are. The higher the rank you hare, the less mistakes YOU make.
Lyless1 votes"Excuses are like assholes, everyone has them" but no seriously man. Stop focusing on everyone else's mistakes and start looking at your own. If you can grow as a player, you will rank up. You may not think so because you are still focused on the idea that having a feeding teammate means you lose by default. But if you start thinking about all the little things you could've done better, you could probably get out of bronze 5 within a week.
Example: 1) its no big deal i dont have a trinket, they have little effective in the game. -Wrong, if you have an upgraded yellow trinket + a pink ward thats 3 wards you can have on the map all the time for pretty much the cost of upgrading your trinket for 250 gold.. More vision = less people getting caught.
- My CS sucks, but at least everyone else's does too. -Wrong, they have shitty CS because they belong in their division, If you honestly think you are better than these bronze 5 players. You will out CS them, It is important. EVEN if every1 else in the game is sucking at it, YOU have to bet the better player and have more.
3)I missed my ult, but its okay so did my teammate in a previous team fight. -Wrong, If you wan't to win the game, dont make these mistakes. Don't make excuses or try to justify your feelings by comparing them to someone else on your team. YOU made the mistake, you are equally at fault for the loss.
4)I'm fed and i tried to make a big play but failed but its okay my team is feeding they are lucky to have me and should cut me some slack: Wrong-, I could be 25-2-15 in a game while the rest of my team is struggling, it is MY job to carry them since I have the farm, if I fuck up, I could cost the team the game. Regardless of how well my team is doing or not, they are depending on me to use my gold wisely, so don't be careless once you obtain a lead.
I Know you didn't say anything about 3 of these points, but I know people do it all the time, I went on tilt, went from s2 to s5 in 1 night, my MMR was so trash i was getting 11LP a win and losing 29LP, I was playing with bronze 4 players in a few of my games I KNOW what it's like. Think about these points.. Think about yourself.. And don't worry about your teamates mistakes. You guys all make an equal amount of mistakes, that is why you are all in the same ELO. Think of your rank as the amount of mistakes you make rather than how good you are. The higher the rank you hare, the less mistakes YOU make.
I am making very few mistakes. So, go tell my teammates that.
Dreadlocks5 votesAnd with that attitude you will stay in bronze 5.. thread /closed.
EndlessSorcerer3 votesYou get the trinket at the very start of the game. You rarely even realize that your team has an AFK until everyone else has left the base, so thta's not an excuse.
Lyless1 votesYou get the trinket at the very start of the game. You rarely even realize that your team has an AFK until everyone else has left the base, so thta's not an excuse.
you are placing the focus on the wrong person.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesYou are the only player in the game you can control.
Attempting to place all of the blame on your teammates isn't going to help you improve.
Dalenthas4 votesStatistically speaking, if you're awesome and never troll or disconnect, then you should win more than half of your games. Your team has 4 people who could possibly troll or disconnect (because you never do, right?), while the enemy team has 5 people who could. No, you're not going to carry 1v5. But the chances that all 5 enemy team members are better than all 4 of your team mates is fairly low, especially since matchmaking tries its best to balance out the teams. You only have to be good enough to make up the difference in skill level. Or, even better, foster an environment where teamwork and vision control win out against superior skill (yes, it happens). Bronze is full of people who don't know how to close out games, who go hunting through the jungle for the last man alive rather than just taking out inhibitors (or the Nexus), and by the time they've gotten the last person (if they even do), the rest of the team has respawned and is ready to defend the objective. Don't be that guy, know when it's better to take objectives, know what objectives you should take (In rough order of importance: Nexus, Inhibitors, Towers, Baron, Dragon, Red Buff, Blue Buff, Scuttle Crab; obviously situations will change this).
The most important thing? It is better for 5 people to follow a bad plan than for 2 people to follow one plan and 3 people to follow another. Yes, even split pushing requires the rest of your team to be in on it. If there's no pressure in the other lanes, if the enemy team doesn't lose anything for sending 4 people to kill you, then you will die repeatedly for little to no gain.
Radnar the bold3 votesif you dont buy wards, then that a big issue. Wards are everything. Wards can change a simple enemy gank, to a ace.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-08-04T16:28:21.326+0000)
if you dont buy wards, then that a big issue. Wards are everything. Wards can change a simple enemy gank, to a ace.
very rarely happens, but thanks for trying to change the subject.
Radnar the bold2 votesWhat? you said how to escape and I'm saying wards can help change fights. For example you might go into a bush and get killed by their team, but if its warded you can stay alive and avert a disaster. Wards help by changing events that could be deadly.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2015-08-04T17:34:10.705+0000)
What? you said how to escape and I'm saying wards can help change fights. For example you might go into a bush and get killed by their team, but if its warded you can stay alive and avert a disaster. Wards help by changing events that could be deadly.
For god sake! Warding is not an issue. Drop it.
Radnar the bold3 votesFor god sake! Warding is not an issue. Drop it.
Ill drop it just as much as you drop wards.
GroundRuleDouble3 votesIt's impossible to get out of B5 with that attitude. I've had almost 200 games in Bronze V. I changed my attitude, and I'm on a 7 game winning streak and in my B4 promos.
Lyless1 votesIt's impossible to get out of B5 with that attitude. I've had almost 200 games in Bronze V. I changed my attitude, and I'm on a 7 game winning streak and in my B4 promos.
Well, I get on winning streaking and then an afk or a troll comes along and kills that. Good for you that you avoided that.
GroundRuleDouble2 votesI haven't avoided that every time. It happens. if it does, try and win, still. Don't give up. If you lose, forget about it, and try again next time. don't let that get stuck in your head as most games don't involve trolls or afks. Only a few.
Lyless1 votesI haven't avoided that every time. It happens. if it does, try and win, still. Don't give up. If you lose, forget about it, and try again next time. don't let that get stuck in your head as most games don't involve trolls or afks. Only a few.
Hard forget to about getting in the top 1o easily and then 1 or 2 afks and then we lose to a team that sucks.
GroundRuleDouble1 votesYou need to do it. It's that attitude that makes it very hard to come back with an open mind in your next game. This causes someone that dies early twice in your next game to instantly think "feeder" and have a bad attitude right away.
Lyless1 votesYou need to do it. It's that attitude that makes it very hard to come back with an open mind in your next game. This causes someone that dies early twice in your next game to instantly think "feeder" and have a bad attitude right away.
if the same things happens in every 1 out 3 games that is a fact. You don't ignore facts. Get a clue!
Cruk2 votesThis thread gave me a good laugh, a bronze 5 player complaining about his teammates, looked you up, you build wrong, dont ward, I have a feeling you dont understand map pressure, objective control, cooldowns, list goes on, the fact that you deny other factors other than kills contributing to the game just shows how naive your attitude is, there are many things in game that change who will win and lose other than kills, kills just make it easier, you also refuse to learn champions that dominate your elo, and dont want to take tips from people who are a higher elo than you, so this is just a bronzie rant thread, do us a favor and keep it to yourself.
Radnar the bold1 votesHe said that warding isnt the main topic.......yet he is asking why he is in elo hell, I said you dont ward that much, and he said "thats not the topic of discussion".....yea warding NEVER helps at allllll(heavy sarcasm)
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-08-04T19:32:07.089+0000)
He said that warding isnt the main topic.......yet he is asking why he is in elo hell, I said you dont ward that much, and he said "thats not the topic of discussion".....yea warding NEVER helps at allllll(heavy sarcasm)
Warding has nothing to do with afks! Drop it! It won't help a numbers advantage. especially if I can't roam freely. So shut up!
Radnar the bold1 votesThen go make four friends and play with a team! geez if you hate people are are SUCH a good player, then go look at the team recuitments, join a team, make friends and play with them. If your team sucks then go and make a team with people you know and can rely on! Jesus, if teamates are your issue then the answer is simple. People are giving you advice and you just say "shutup Im better than you and you dont understand this game". Wards do matter, stop saying then dont mean anything. Afks happen, go make a team or join one. I think I repeated what to do so go do that! find a fricken Team.
Cruk1 votes[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-08-04T19:32:07.089+0000)
He said that warding isnt the main topic.......yet he is asking why he is in elo hell, I said you dont ward that much, and he said "thats not the topic of discussion".....yea warding NEVER helps at allllll(heavy sarcasm)
Literally the sooner any player goes "Wow, my team realllllly fucked up there, sej missed her ult, Miss Fortune got caught", etc etc etc, and stops and says "BUT, i could have done this better and this and this and this, ward here so she doesnt get caught, understand where the next fight on the map is, land my CC, dont mess up my combo" like literally blame yourself not your team, because you are never gonna play with those people again. Focus on your own play.
warpenguin5552 votesthen how did i do it in 6 games?
Lyless1 votesthen how did i do it in 6 games?
you got lucky. Take for instance. Last game. 2 afks and lag! SO, I guess I was suppose to OVERCOME that too. Every time I crack the top 5 this happens! EVERYTIME!
The thing is 1 vs 1 I would kick you butt. You are not a better player than me.
warpenguin5551 votesyou got lucky. Take for instance. Last game. 2 afks and lag! SO, I guess I was suppose to OVERCOME that too. Every time I crack the top 5 this happens! EVERYTIME!
The thing is 1 vs 1 I would kick you butt. You are not a better player than me.
Radnar the bold1 votes
- i never said i was better
- 1v1's are a waste of time because no IP/LP can be earned
Hes is pulling a halo "wow 1v1 you noob" trick which worked for halo when everyone had the same gun and charcter and thats were you could see who was better. But in this game with many champs who have a counter to one another? 1v1 solve nothing.
Vistha Kai1 votesDamn, Bronze 5 is so bad, right?
I can win in Bronze 5 carrying with full AP Riven mid and you can't win "making very few mistakes"?
Ayy lmao.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-08-04T18:37:06.153+0000)
Damn, Bronze 5 is so bad, right?
I can win in Bronze 5 carrying with full AP Riven mid and you can't win "making very few mistakes"?
Ayy lmao.
Yet, you aren't playing the games. Sit down.
Vistha Kai1 votesIt took me a week of casual gaming to get from Bronze 5 to Gold 5.
Try harder.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2015-08-04T21:44:12.116+0000)
It took me a week of casual gaming to get from Bronze 5 to Gold 5.
Try harder.
You are full of it. There is reason it's 5 v 5.
Vistha Kai2 votesI'm not full of it. It's a fact. I did go from Bronze 5 to Gold 5.
You may want to not believe me and be stuck in Bronze. It's up to you: Get good or get wrecked.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-05T14:02:10.034+0000)
I'm not full of it. It's a fact. I did go from Bronze 5 to Gold 5.
You may want to not believe me and be stuck in Bronze. It's up to you: Get good or get wrecked.
I am good, problem is no one wins a game by themselves. You didn't either. And you are a liar.
Vistha Kai1 votesIn Bronze?
When any semi-good Gold/Platinum steps into a Bronze match, the match ends in the champion select.
The problem with solo carrying begins in high Gold, when there's more than one good player and they basically nulify each other. Saying you can't carry in Bronze is laughable at best.
Sorry, but that's truth you need to accept.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-05T17:53:26.519+0000)
In Bronze?
When any semi-good Gold/Platinum steps into a Bronze match, the match ends in the champion select.
The problem with solo carrying begins in high Gold, when there's more than one good player and they basically nulify each other. Saying you can't carry in Bronze is laughable at best.
Sorry, but that's truth you need to accept.
Look, I don't care what you think! You couldn't carry 4 assholes who don't know what they are doing, no more than I could. So, stop with the lies.
Vistha Kai1 votesroflmao
You couldn't carry 4 assholes.
Except I did.
I'm done with this troll.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=000500000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-05T21:49:42.155+0000)
roflmao
Except I did.
I'm done with this troll.
lies!
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-05T17:53:26.519+0000)
In Bronze?
When any semi-good Gold/Platinum steps into a Bronze match, the match ends in the champion select.
The problem with solo carrying begins in high Gold, when there's more than one good player and they basically nulify each other. Saying you can't carry in Bronze is laughable at best.
Sorry, but that's truth you need to accept.
I don't listen to liars and people who didn't EARN where they were.
Rinky Dinky1 votesClimbing out of bronze is hilariously easy.
Trying to get out of silver 1 is the hard shit.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lane Cancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-08-04T19:39:12.700+0000)
Climbing out of bronze is hilariously easy.
Trying to get out of silver 1 is the hard shit.
you are saying that from where you are. Thing is looking at your match history. I could beat you too. Wouldn't be easy, but I could.
Rinky Dinky1 votesAnd looking at yours, I can see why you are stuck :)
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lane Cancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2015-08-04T20:10:06.697+0000)
And looking at yours, I can see why you are stuck :)
I am stuck because those around me.
Rinky Dinky2 votesNo, you are stuck because, to be frank, you are ass at this game.
You have a bad attitude more then likely, suck yourself (those builds......), and probably flame whenever your jungler doesnt gank, or blame bad warding 100% on the support.
Bronze > Silver 3 is basic shit. Even if your team is ass, the enemy team is also ass, because its bronze. Only shitters are in b5 in the first place.
"Elo Hell", which is what you seem to be trying to reference, is most prominently silver 5 - low gold.
Why? Because some players will know the basics (which you seem to lack), meaning that if you get a rager/troll/afk on your team, or even someone who legit sucks shit, the enemy team will capitalize on that.
In b5, its literally chickens running around with there heads cut off. Even smurfs wont be found there, unless they purchased an account to get that low, or threw 10 placements (which wont always land them in b5 anyways).
If you are half decent, you will easily climb to at least s5.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lane Cancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-04T21:41:29.775+0000)
No, you are stuck because, to be frank, you are ass at this game.
You have a bad attitude more then likely, suck yourself (those builds......), and probably flame whenever your jungler doesnt gank, or blame bad warding 100% on the support.
Bronze > Silver 3 is basic shit. Even if your team is ass, the enemy team is also ass, because its bronze. Only shitters are in b5 in the first place.
"Elo Hell", which is what you seem to be trying to reference, is most prominently silver 5 - low gold.
Why? Because some players will know the basics (which you seem to lack), meaning that if you get a rager/troll/afk on your team, or even someone who legit sucks shit, the enemy team will capitalize on that.
In b5, its literally chickens running around with there heads cut off. Even smurfs wont be found there, unless they purchased an account to get that low, or threw 10 placements (which wont always land them in b5 anyways).
If you are half decent, you will easily climb to at least s5.
And all these guesses which are wrong. Is why no one respects these idiots! Idiots who had someone play their accounts for them to get them where they were.
Numbers are still numbers.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lane Cancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2015-08-04T21:41:29.775+0000)
No, you are stuck because, to be frank, you are ass at this game.
You have a bad attitude more then likely, suck yourself (those builds......), and probably flame whenever your jungler doesnt gank, or blame bad warding 100% on the support.
Bronze > Silver 3 is basic shit. Even if your team is ass, the enemy team is also ass, because its bronze. Only shitters are in b5 in the first place.
"Elo Hell", which is what you seem to be trying to reference, is most prominently silver 5 - low gold.
Why? Because some players will know the basics (which you seem to lack), meaning that if you get a rager/troll/afk on your team, or even someone who legit sucks shit, the enemy team will capitalize on that.
In b5, its literally chickens running around with there heads cut off. Even smurfs wont be found there, unless they purchased an account to get that low, or threw 10 placements (which wont always land them in b5 anyways).
If you are half decent, you will easily climb to at least s5.
I love when these know-it -all who were carried and never played though having "ass teammates" judge you. Ummm..... my build is fine. There are thousands of builds! People like this guy had his brother or friend get him where he is in this game. This guy is a bum.
Radnar the bold2 votes[{quoted}](name=Lane Cancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ceRRzmhf,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-08-04T19:39:12.700+0000)
Climbing out of bronze is hilariously easy.
Trying to get out of silver 1 is the hard shit.
I stopped playing because the higher up you go the more solo que is shit. Im trying to train my friend so we can do duo. Im tired of doing bad in one game, and then having bad teamates in another.