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Loss of support mains , game not enjoyable , tired of keeping up with Meta

Peel for my ADC··4 votes·1,744 views

I main support and have been playing this game on and off since Season 1. I MainJanna Braum . (Background information)Situational picksMorgana Sona Blitzcrank Alistar

I just got finished with one game in 8.12 and I'm taking a break from league until some serious problems are fixed . If i cannot play what I want in this game the way i want to play it , then i just wont play it at all . I will not adapt to the current garbage Bruiser engage support bot lane Meta , because this is not fun nor is it the way I've played the game for so many years.

Support is already an undesirable role , now you are about to lose a good handful of your support mains in league after this patch

I Guarantee without a doubt in my mind , you will have a lot of support mains like myself quiting the game until some serious changes are made . The amount of quality supports you will still have will be reduced dramatically in an already unfavorable role.

Sometimes less is more , and that is such a simple way to put it but it could go a long way. If its not broke don't fix it

I wouldn't be surprised if the already broken unlimited mana Morgana has a 55% WR this patch , she received the most benefit from this patch in the support role . More tanks will be played and she will be there to counter each and every one

Why not just nerf one or the other first ? Why couldn't you of just toned down ardent or hell even removed it instead of nerfing ardent and nerfing shields in the same patch ? Why do you have to completely change play styles of champions due to such major changes ?

These nerf's in 8.12 to Enchanters are a bit overkill in my opinion , and the Crit Adc is dead from patch 8.11 .

If you don't playLucian Kaisa Ezreal Draven you might as well just instalock

Irelia

I'm so upset and unhappy with the state of the game right now

19 Comments

OurLestrade3 votes

Taric "I've been to the top of the mountain, and the bottom of the gutter. There's much to learn from both."

REMAKE GoT S83 votes

points out sensible facts about the state of support in the game "you're just an egrill who doesn't wanna try"

Well, I've been playing since S1 and didn't even get into support until late S3, didn't become a support main until late S5, so perhaps that will now give me some ground to stand on as a current support main? Along with a degree in game design, but hey, I'm ready for the whiners here to whine about me whining.

With the recent release of Pyke, an assassin "support", it's hard to say Riot is trying to work out what is best for supports. Traditional supports have been getting shit on ever since Riot goofed up with Ardent and left the game in an incredibly unhealthy state. Janna hasn't been much of an issue lately quite frankly, if you're unable to lane against her purely because "her shield is too strong" then perhaps you should learn how to keep tabs on cooldowns. I do believe Janna, Karma, and Lulu shields did need _some _adjustments, but the nerf on the support items is going to be incredibly unhealthy for the healers as well. Who quite frankly, in my opinion, without offending anyone snorts, haven't been doing very well.

For the past year, I've seen a significant increase in picking champions who traditionally aren't support, and that's cool that people can play off meta things, but is that what Riot is going for? Such a massive nerf to a role (which was hardly OP or desirable to begin with) is going to leave supports in a garbage position. Give up your traditional supports because they aren't going to be as viable as most other picks, or play them at an extreme disadvantage. With the release of conqueror, Leona and other hard engage supports got boned, now it's the healers and shielders. Is the intention to eventually delete the _support _role and simply have two carries down bot? Just curious, because honestly it seems more viable than an adc with a support.

B b but hey, don't mind me, mah vagina is just excreting salt. [sg-lulu]

Quite frankly, if Riot does want to go the route of abolishing traditional support role, I'd just like them to be upfront about it. I can't tell you how baited I felt when I heard there was a new support champion in the works, just to find out it was an assassin lmfao. I have no issues returning to my top and mid, but I am disappointed that Riot is taking this route, as I'm sure many other traditional support players are.

TL;DR

Shields needed some adjustments - this was too much. RIP traditional supports, was a fun run.

Peel for my ADC2 votes

Everything you said was so true . So few people I Feel can relate to us , and its really sad . Thanks for your post and your time , I'm going to have a tough time adjusting since the only thing I can seem to play outside of support is DrMundo Hahahahaahahahahahahaaha. Really it just comes down to playstyle too i've always loved playing support , not really anything else.

CaptainAntiHeroz3 votes

Can't play Lulu or rakan or Sona in this nonsense.... And conquerer makes Leona maxing w useless... Sad times riot... Like please think before you touch struggling champions and their items again, like at all, nerfing shield durations while nerfing shield strength and buffing assassin's? That's not thinking that's banishing bot lane to the shadow realm

NY641 votes

As a support main myself I do agree. When conqueror was added, tanks immediately became unviable, especially tank supports. My enjoyment of the game became greatly reduced since my choices of who to pick went down a lot. I guess I can’t pick Leona, Alistar, Braum, Tahm, Nautilus, or Thresh anymore thanks Riot. The only tank support that survived the fall of tank supports was Taric and that is only because he is part enchanter. It felt like I had to pick a specific group of supports or I would be guaranteed to lose. I have stopped playing ranked because of it, I’ve gotten tired of only picking Nami or Soraka to win.

So I moved on to only playing normals until they get this crap changed. However playing normals after the big adc change is interesting. Since crit adc’s are not so dominant I have seen much more diversity in adc picks. I have seen many different champs start to go bot and it’s feels pretty fresh and fun. Nunu and Taric, Darius and Garen, Irellia and Sona, Corki and Heimer, Viktor and Morgana, Mord and Blitz.

I didn’t like the change of making tanks much weaker but I did like the big adc change and now I have to worry if support will be fun anymore with the nerf to enchanters. I guess it’s time to only pick ap burst supports. I may enjoy playing ap burst supports like brand and Zyra a lot but I don’t want to have to end up only playing them to win.

Also I have a question what do you think is the worst part of dealing with Irellia. I have heard many complaints but I’d like to know what people think is the worst thing about dealing with her. I think that fact she can constantly jump around with her q is the worst.

Peel for my ADC1 votes

The Q reset is pretty annoying and running her with conqueror is even worse , they should completely do away with that rune . I don't have that much of a problem with her , i probably hated the fact that she could rip through shields more than anything the most because I mained janna . I really just don't want to see Bruisers in general playing in the adc role . I want the old Pre 8.11 Meta back

Linna Excel1 votes

The current meta seems to be shifting towards a cc support midlane paired with a carry jungler getting all the farm from jungle and midlane. So it's the same old stuff, but now you are in mid.

Eedat1 votes

Sorry, days of afk spamming shields on the ADC are gone. You have to actually put some effort into thinking about who and when to use your abilities now. You know, like almost every other champion in the game lol

SUPERMOVAA1 votes

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Peel for my ADC2 votes

Honestly man hear me out , I believe janna did need a nerf . But with current state of the bot lane this was definitely the wrong time . And i actually am good with other supports than just enchanters . The shield is strong but the best part of her kit is her ability to peel . You can't just engage with her a majority of the time in the laning phase you have to wait for your opponent to make a mistake or a bad engage by peeling and kitting it . The same goes for playing against her , you play around her cooldowns and janna is actually really weak pre 6 in lane

Algido1 votes

{quoted}

Wha wha my broken egirl champ and egirl spam shields on my booster like a pet are gone

That's all I'm hearing

All I'm hearing is "I play Garen in 100% of my games." I would love to see your reaction to a [much needed] hard Garen nerf.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Still crying over "nerfs" shocker. Ohh man the duration is lowered a little bit time to cry or the little bit of shield you lose from the bonus to shield and heals..... That little of % is nothing. That's like saying overgrowth is the strongest rune in the game...... So youhave to be better at casting shields cry me a river

Algido2 votes

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Still crying over "nerfs" shocker. Ohh man the duration is lowered a little bit time to cry or the little bit of shield you lose from the bonus to shield and heals..... That little of % is nothing. That's like saying overgrowth is the strongest rune in the game...... So youhave to be better at casting shields cry me a river

Why the fuk is this a reply to me? I can only assume you replied to the wrong person because I'm a Mordekaiser main... Morde is not a girl. Morde's shield is passive based off of damage dealt that scales with E ranks therefore I can't actually cast a shield which means I can't get better or worse. Morde's overshield has not been altered. I never mentioned anything about a rune either. So go fuk yourself you dumbass and make sure you reply to the comment you intend to before being a complete and utter asshole

Mizaya1 votes

Well I'm still getting autofilled top when I queue bot > mid so...

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