Can we change Taric back to when he saw play?

Phoneixflare·3/22/2015, 9:16:00 PM·7 votes·1,999 views

you know, when he was actually good? :D because he's one of the worst supports and champions in game. right up there with urgot and galio.

44 Comments

gUqfuIN4LL3/22/2015, 9:57:45 PM5 votes

As a strict support main, I'd love to make a detailed response to this.

For starters, Taric is in a terrible place - that I agree with. Taric lacks any substantial CC, his heal is mediocre, and his defensive bonuses given to his team is barely even noticeable. To add on to all of that, the majority of ADCs do not use ANY ability power, and those that do, do not scale very well off of it...nor does Taric scale well off of AP either. That being said, the point of his ultimate, prior to laning phase being over, is basically POINTLESS. Yes, there are some occasions in which it can be useful and helpful - but over-all I'd much rather a Leona/Braum/Thresh/Soraka/Janna/Lulu..ect. ect. (Can't forget the fishy. Nami ) ult over a Taric ult. Sorry Taric, we still love you.

Tarics heal: Woo a champion that can heal his allies and himself, scaling off of his overall stats, rather than just ability power. First of all, Soraka's heals are WAY better, and can basically be spammed late game at the cost of a very miniscule amount of health. Nami's heals are also stronger, and bounce to deal damage to her enemies, and additional heals to her allies (Or extra damage to her enemies...blah blah, you get the point.) Bard can heal people...and give them a mobility boost....and his heals are basically global, as they can be placed anywhere on the map.

Tarics Armor Bonus: Woohoo, I get additional armor stats when I have a Taric on my team. Okay cool. But what if the majority of the other team is mostly AP? On top of that, is the armor bonus really that noticeable? Maybe it is, I'm just a gold ELO-Player; I'm not that great...but I sure don't see a major difference while playing with a Taric. On top of that, Braum can jump to an ally giving them an armor AND magic resistance bonus. PLUS way better peel/engage potential with his W mobility. Once again Taric is being crushed by other support options.

Tarics stun: No skill shot, easy to land, pretty decent cool down, relatively a good skill. Sion Stun pre-rework, without the damage. Only 1 thing; the range on it is terrible, the stun time on it is less than a Janna Q knockup with no charge, and the enemy support can probably peel for their adc in the amount of time Taric takes to travel to the enemy in the first place. I'm not even going to list the amount of supports and their skills....that have better engage/stun/peel/disengage with their CC over Taric's stun. It's pathetic.

Taric's ult: See above. WTF is his ult. Please Rito.

Just my $.02

edit: and to this:

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le baddie named le taric lel so bad 52% win rate vry bad.

When only 4 people play him a month, it's not hard to get a 52% win rate.

Jevokan3/22/2015, 9:21:27 PM4 votes

Taric is not even on par with a support like Leona and Thresh. He just feels like a very slow, short lasting meat shield that eventually will just feed the lane. When I go ADC and someone picks Taric support I cringe.

The Paulrus3/22/2015, 9:39:21 PM3 votes

Something as small as adding an AOE heal to his ult and making his stun have a small armor scaling (which you could reduce the AP to compensate for). Also, lowering the mana cost on the Q would be stellar.

LilxPaprika3/22/2015, 9:32:39 PM3 votes

i think such a change would coincide well with a rework/vu, he's pretty dated overall. but in the interim a quick fix might do.

Avorok3/23/2015, 8:11:00 PM2 votes

Best play with taric you can do is a flash bedazzle.

TranslationZ3/23/2015, 7:45:35 PM1 votes

Well I really like Taric for DuoQ, me and a friend use him sometimes bot-lane and we rarely lose lane, he goes very well with Corki/Graves Taric just click e/w then graves follow-up and they lose like 30%-50%hp with just a few clicks, and corki and his flat armor reduction are very helpful mid-lategame to give the WHOLE team more damage.

Duke Anax3/23/2015, 8:24:42 PM1 votes

like urgot he simply is misunderstood by a majority of the community.

He doesn't have that much utility, and he scales well on XP, which he doesn't get in bot lane. He is better top.

Also his heal and armor reduction make him a great Jungler. He also has just enough CC for good ganks.

bad arcade kitty3/23/2015, 10:54:14 PM1 votes

taric has 50-51% winrate

AetherKingdom3/22/2015, 9:54:40 PM1 votes

le baddie named le taric lel so bad 52% win rate vry bad.

Laraso3/22/2015, 10:31:20 PM1 votes

Urgot mid beat Zed in LCS. Can we expect mid Taric to get picked against Ahri now?

Hue

aperson13/23/2015, 2:04:53 AM1 votes

Taric is better than people give him credit for. It's hard to say "oh that armor from taric's W saved me that fight" or "that 30 AD he gave me was just enough to kill Ziggs with my autos" but they are very real advantages that make a huge difference when applied to 4 other people.

Also a point-and-click stun with no strings attached is very rare and valuable in the game nowadays.

gr8job3/23/2015, 11:09:57 AM1 votes

I think their main problem with him is his invisible strengths with his armor buff, and his stun being point-and-click. If they could find a way to make his armor aura more interactive, and keep his stun as reliable, but more risky somehow, his power could be increased....

His main concept is gems. Because they're truly outrageous. I feel like they could do a lot more with this theme then they currently do.