Currently Zoe Jungles better then Fiddlesticks

Chroud··2 votes·439 views

This is not a this champ is (OP) thread about Zoe this is just a simple statement.

Currently Zoe has better Clear speed then Fiddlesticks Currently Zoe has better tower dive potential then Fiddlestick

Is fiddle no longer considered a JG or is something? or is something in works soon to bring him up to par in this new season? (Currently Fiddle sticks is performing poorly in (SUP)(JG)(MID).

I main fiddlesticks but have pulled back on him this season as so many other champions perform his job alot better including champs not even designed to jungle.

Any thoughts or suggestions lets keep them civil.

I also realize RIOT can not give there attention to all champions.

3 Comments

Rustling Bush1 votes

they need to rework him, primarly because i hate seeing the cancer that is middle(or supp)sticks against any mage champion. just sit back and throw silence constantly, the most low effort and brain dead laning champion.

Jmman1 votes

Aa a fiddle main I get it. This is one of the reasons we want a rework

See we cant use drain to farm due to the high mana cost. 2 or 3 of thoses and we are oom.

Fear does no damage so cant farm with that.

Fiddle has the slowed attack speed animation and no damage so you cant farm with that.

So all it leaves is to "E" and try to time your AA the best he can. Look at all the fiddle CS. They are really really low comparted to other mages. He is very very mana heavy. Hint why jungle sucks now. Without blue its ALOT of backs. So his only option is to spam "E"

Lets take a closer look at the Crows and our complains when they changed it. It now bounces to un-hit things. So if you are standing in the 7 minion wave it will hit 7 of the 8 things. That means its a 87.5% chance it will hit you. Before they were random. So it might hit the same minion mult times. This made "e" better farming in. But they changed it because some mids cried about it randomly hitting them 3 times. (I never saw it but whatever) So this went from not being that bad to almost always a hit because of Rito smart insight.

Fiddle players told them this would really hurt his farm and just be more unfair to laning against him. Because now they would have to be out of minion exp range not to get hit. This would make them either lose exp or take damage every throw. Now its not too bad against AD and sustain mages because they can heal through the poke. (its some adc/support combos I throw some much damage and mana to have them always sitting at 100% hp and mana.) All in all same story. Rito didn't listen to the people that play the champ and make the spell worst for everyone.

But the spell isn't really op. because if you only get hit once for 65 damage but have to use 100 mana casting its kinda bad. Same with his drain. One tick less than 100 damage for 120 mana.... (using MR in relation to damage in example but you get the point)

The asking for the fixing of fiddle is to make his spot in the rift fun for both parts. Because right not its either fiddle will spack you around (if you are mage he will screw you) or I get dived and instant delete without any counter play. this is fun for anyone. I have been a fiddle main since season 1 and we were promised a rework / revamp YEARS ago. But sadly its just the same champs over and over. While fiddle has only seen nerfs. Now if they nerf something the buff it but its still weaker than it was that is still a nerf.

But if you want to destroy fiddle play a AD champ and got item 3155 / rune. or play a tank , because they all have damage and CC now. After a few level it won't matter how much farm and kill he has. You will delete him instantly. Also get ganks because he is very very weak to ganks. So slow and no escapes.

Existential Bard1 votes

I think fiddle sticks is fun. I do feel they should put the silence on his ultimate or something. I find his silence on the crow to be really annoying. Maybe buff the damage his heal does to jungle camps or allow his fear to debuff jungle camps so he can do more damage to them with his other abilities.

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