Why was the fish gutted in 6.13? (Top lane Tahm Kench discussion)

Das BrotatoChip·7/13/2016, 8:11:19 PM·2 votes·806 views

Not gonna lie to you all, I'm pretty salty about the fact that top lane Tahm Kench, and really Tahm Kench as a whole, was nerfed into a completely unplayable state in 6.13, with no buffs, reversions, or changes for patch 6.14. The rework on his ultimate passive (moved to his general passive, went from dealing 2%/4%/6% of his bonus health as magic damage on basic attacks and abilities, starting at level 6 and scaling with ultimate rank, to dealing 1%/1.25%/1.5% of his maximum health instead, stacking up to three times, and scaling at levels 11 and 16) was a HUGE damage nerf. I've crunched the numbers, and it essentially removes 30-40% of his level 11+ damage, while only increasing his level 6 damage by about 10%, and only offers ANY increase in damage in extended trades where he can get off at least four abilities and/or auto attacks. The only advantage his new passive damage has over his old passive damage is levels 1-7 or so, but it doesn't make him enough of a lane bully to make up for the fact that his late game scaling is now garbage.

His shield changes are completely whatever, and his ultimate buffs feel more like a quality-of-life change (a much appreciated one, I'll fully admit), than they do an outright buff.

Top lane Tahm used to be so fun. No opponent ever respected the pick, and as long as you played safe and farmed well before level 6, you would outscale almost any opponent. He was super pocket OP. Now he struggles to find any solid footing.

It just makes me sad. Riot, please give me back my Kench to unbench :(

7 Comments

L Psy Kongroo7/13/2016, 8:34:40 PM3 votes

Tahm Kench is not a fish, he's a frog.

Calabok7/13/2016, 8:12:06 PM1 votes

Oppressive Overly tanky Etc etc

redniwediS7/13/2016, 8:15:39 PM1 votes

In a solo lane situation there has to be balance between offense and defense. Normally for top laners, at least early on, you naturally have one but either have to build the other or scale with levels. Tahm now fits this idea.

Maybe they nerfed him too far in the mid/late game, but early on at least is fine.

Swiftstrike47/13/2016, 8:22:42 PM1 votes

Tahm Kench has seen repeated nerfs because he was almost impossible to kill AND he was incredibly annoying because he was difficult to get away from. He was very similar to tank Ekko except he did slightly less damage and could save dying teammates.

I will say, I think he may have been over nerfed, but then every time I play against him top he annoys me SOOO much that I am perfectly fine never seeing that champion again.

Jbels7/13/2016, 8:22:54 PM1 votes

What are you talking about? Tahm can literally duel Illaoi with these changes

Blakiepug7/13/2016, 11:56:34 PM1 votes

Just found this topic after trying to play a game with my favorite support again. Tahm Kench just doesn't feel good to play anymore. His damage is terrible and now he is squishy af early game. Like what is he supposed to excel at now? I do not like these new changes now having tried them out myself and though it probably won't happen, I would much rather they be reverted. I feel like I can't even play my favorite champion anymore because Riot continues to have a field day tramping all over my catfish. >:(