Rabadon's Death Cap
Combined with the recent changes to core AP items...
https://33.media.tumblr.com/c87fb25b4041d293d36251321dd3ba23/tumblr_naa7odVYxZ1s3c8vdo1_400.gif
StegosaurusToast42 votes
Before: It's good on me, i guess i can pick one up After: WHY BE A KING, WHEN YOU CAN BE A GOD?
Before: Yay power spike After: LET ME SING THE SONG OF MY PEOPLE, IT GOES LIKE THIS, RRRRRRRRR PENTAKILLARU
Before: There goes her HP Bar After: For my next trick, i'll penta the enemy team with my W
Before: I suck until late game After: RUSH THE RABADONS, MUAHAHAHAHAHA
AP 
Before: Rip DFG After: I NEED NO DFG!
Before: Wanna see my Riftwalk? After: Wanna see me get nerfed?
Rew7115 votesAs a Veigar main, I will be waiting on the Rift.
KenjiChan25139 votes
Before: Behold my army!
After: Meet the Royal Guard.
Before: No man can resist my charms...
After: Okay, seriously? You didn't last even two seconds.
Before: Double rainbow, boys!
After: KA-ME-HA-ME-HAAAAAA!!!!!
Before: PENTAKILL!
After: PENTAKILL SLIGHTLY FASTER!
KenjiChan2515 votes
Before:
Feel winter's wrath!
After:
THIS IS THE ICE AGE AND ALL OF YOU WILL GO EXTINCT
Before:
Be consumed by flames!
After:
BU-BURN! BURN TO THE-BURN TO THE GROUND! BURN TO TH-THE GROUND!
AP 
Before: See if you can take it, boys...
After: Seriously? You only lasted one shot!
Before: SCANNING LASER UPGRADED
After: plays Touhou music
Before: Bow before my might!
After: POWAAAAAAH!!! UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAH!!!!
Before: Demolition expert
After: Michael Bay
Jofeyy4 votes
Before: I can blow up one champ at a time.
After: One ball one kill "Power without limit"
Before: Burn ants BUUURN
After: "You may fire when ready comander" Death star blows up alderann
Before: Deleted in 0.25 seconds
After: Went back in time and deleted you before you were a concept champion.
Before: Slowly poising enemies to death
After: Spitting more death than eminem in a rap battle.
Ap
Before: Fuck you and everything around you.
After: Makes a permanent graphical dent on summoners rift that never gets repaired.
Axxuka7 votes 
A Superb Villain32 votes
grumpyfrogy4 votesVeigar, the tiny master of freelo
Saminus Maximus7 votes
Zhonyas while the projectile is in mid air and it vanishes, does no damage, and goes on full cooldown.
A Superb Villain1 votesBait that shit, yo.
Crett5 votes[{quoted}](name=A Superb Villain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c8ioEoEz,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2015-06-24T03:47:45.194+0000)
Bait that shit, yo.
That's why I get these items
my ap will not be denied
OyddAWqJ5r2 votesI swear, this is a major issue with the Cass rework. They needa redo the numbering so she works exactly the same as she does now but with a lower endgame AP value and higher AP ratios to compensate. That way she isn't being completely demolished by Veigar's R.
1200 AP is a good way to get yourself killed.
ImperialKain3 votesThen Riot well see this and "Compensate" a little more. They may even give his q passive a "buff" on how it interacts with Rabadon's updated stat bonus.
7ha7guy7777 votes
with new deathcap could be scary
OyddAWqJ5r7 votesRiot: #"Compensation" Intesifies
xD
Zenthon Prime6 votesOh, and Seraph's now gives 80 AP before the passive.
Prepare for the reckoning.
Kingsgrave6 votesSeraph into Rabadons rush is going to hurt
CrazedPorcupine3 votesTear-Roa-Rabadon-Seraph's is going to hurt even MORE since they're buffing the mana granted from RoA.
Davy Crockett1 votesIs ROA currently viable on Veigar or not? I've typically just built a glass cannon with him. Edit: What is the strategy for getting an ROA after a tear? (Mana sustain?) and the viability of it?
ArkenStorm2 votesI feel that it could be switched out for morellos, as with DFG removal my current build goes like this:
not necessarily in that order, however i get a tear asap(duh) and try for forbidden idol as well if I can, helps a lot with the cdr and mana regen combined with tear and his passive. also i run mana regen runes too. makes it so i can farm ap much better and harass more.
Davy Crockett2 votesMy typical build is either a tear or Morello rush, Zhonya's, then Dcap. After that I get Voidstaff and the final item is a rylai's. ive never thought about an ROA on Veigar because he is really squishy and immobile. i shall have to try that. I've heard varying debates on Tear/Morello rush and which is better.
Edit: Tear rush and building Forbidden Idol makes sense now cuz mana regen.
ArkenStorm1 votesyeah i don't really like to build ROA on him because you already have the tear stacking which takes a while, and you need as much early game as possible, because your late game is so monstrous anyway.
Davy Crockett1 votesThis is the first I've heard of ROA on Veigar so thats why Im asking so many questions.
CrazedPorcupine1 votesI personally like Grail for all my mana/mana regen needs. the 100% base mana regen + it's mana font passive + equilibrium means that you will literally NEVER go lower than 50% mana. By level 18, your mana regen is so high that IF you manage to get lower than 50%, you're sitting at around 15-16 mana regen PER SECOND (or about 75per5). So by the time everything is off cooldown, you're back up to around 60-65%
ArkenStorm1 votesI like morellos becvuase of the grievous wounds. I can't tell you how many times I have bursted down lifestealers/spellvampers(?) (when athenes was at its prime before the nerfs, I always got it) and then they heal it off just barely. Gah.
CrazedPorcupine1 votesHonestly, the choice betwee, morellonomicon/Grail/Tear is really honestly just up to the player.
I personally like Grail, but I do buy Morellonomicon when facing champs like Swain or Mundo (thought about it against Akali, but MR is really valuable), but usually I find that if I'm doing well, and farming really well, I can usually burst anyone except hypertanks.
Crett1 votesTear-Roa-Rabadon-Seraph's is going to hurt even MORE since they're buffing the mana granted from RoA.
is really good with these items.
. all contribute to the ap gained from mana
and when i'm doing really well on veigar (over 1000 AP), I like to take these two items...
ArkenStorm3 votesspellvamp, although i like it, is nigh useless on veigar because you will either get instabursted or dont get touched at all. Nashors tooth, ok, I can see that, but void staff and sorc shoes would be a better choice
Crett1 votesNot with rod and seraph's embrace. I've survived many a burst with those items. The spellvamp helps insanely with sieges and late game pressure, not to mention the 30% CDR I otherwise wouldn't have gotten (I hate Athene's on Veigar)
ArkenStorm1 votesalright, alright. I'm with you on the Athene's hate, tear is wayyyy better. I guess it's just personal preference. yo ubuild Veigar your way and I'll stick with my quadra-nearly penta [ so sad, I nearly had it :'( ]
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1865457774/40401779?tab=overview
Ancestor0072 votes Do you want to hear a song. It goes like this : pentakill
MrButtermancer6 votesYeah not so much on Veigar. High AP means nothing when he has no tool to land W. The others, maybe. But 1000 damage that hits the ground is actually 0 damage.
ArkenStorm2 votessigh....nobody has realized it yet. trap the enemy laner with your e, use meteor slightly off center and it will still hit them. and they are trapped and you can unload the rest of your combo too.
Trídent5 votes BOW TO ME MORTAL WEAKLINGS!!!!!
YOUR SOUL.... WILL COME TO SERVE ME!
WAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
A Superb Villain10 votesTrídent5 votes
OOO A KITTY! HOW CUTE!!!!!
ArkenStorm3 votesyeah...I'm excited. I main veigar. >:D also mordekaiser
ArkenStorm7 votesyou know whats funny? i saw this comment and was like omg a fellow person....then I saw it was myself. I forgot i posted this. lol
Llanite2 votes5% ap isnt that much :|
Aspynn9 votesDon't forget all the other changes. And 5% is a fuckton when coupled with veigar's passive.
Davy Crockett1 votesWhich passive?
Aspynn2 votesI meant the Q stacking passive
TotalJerk2 votesI've always disliked Rabadon's Deathcap because it's such a mandatory item on so many champions and doesn't even do anything particularly interesting. Buffing it and giving it a better build path will likely exacerbate that problem.
NeoScout7 votesThis is what RiotXypherous had to say about that in a reply to a comment i made recently on reddit:
me: "Rabadon and Infinity Edge shouldn't exist imo, it's like flash, you end up getting it most of the time in their respective classes. If they were removed then the other items can be buffed and picked based on cool effects instead of raw power."
RiotXypherous: "While I kind of agree with you on this in theory - I've actually run this experiment before and what I observed was kind of the opposite.
It ended up not actually picking items based on cool effects a lot of the time - but simply grabbing every single item based on how easy it was to build and how quickly they could assemble them. They didn't really care what they ended up with.
The presence of a capstone damage item forces you to commit hard to that item if you want a major part of your identity to be damage. The fact that this item only provides damage and you have to sink a large part of your resources into it is actually what creates the need for utility items to bring enough utility to compete with raw damage.
That said - I do think that Deathcap and such are probably too big of a multiplier - but my goal for this set of changes was to end up at similar AP values compared to live in the end-game and comparable in between - mostly because I'm not really looking to adjust the value of AP as a whole - just trying to break up a specific set of AP items. "
Penta Penguin1 votesliterally 5% extra damage for your combo that already 1-shots any squishy
gg nice buff veigar fans
A Superb Villain11 votesliterally 5% extra damage
I'm no mathematician, but I do not think that is how this change works.
Rinky Dinky4 votesIt's not.
I tend to avoid cupcake icons. This is why
