All these things just got added to the pbe, maybe they are buffs, maybe they are not. You wont know if they are until you try them out for yourselves. So please calm down. Stop complaining and let Riot do their thing. Have faith.
Referring to the champion updates.
but nobody speaks ballance here ... people speak gameplay
and gameplay wise ... it all sucks
darius was meant to have his gameplay updated ... his current gameplay got neforced garen was meant to have his gameplay updated ... whatever he did get doesnt accomplish that
also this creates a new logic ... dont kill garen's team or he will kill you ... thats not a good gameplay its just like irelia where you cant win a fight againtst her or she will stunn you and kill you
then we have skarner ... not a gameplay update again .. just a new mechanic ... beter than garen and darius but still crappy
why ? because from gameplay standpoint this enforces only snowballing ... skarners team does good and skarner dominates the objective controll ... skarner's team doesnt do that good and the pillars serve his enemies while giving nothing to skarner
and then there is mordekaiser which is the most unique ... but at the same time the worst gameplay wise
his entire gameplay will now boil down to "if we are lucky to get dragon we destroy them"
there is no counterplay here besides snowballing morde and his team so they can never compete dragon
also if morde gets an early dragon and gets to lane ... what will you do ? there is barely any counterplay to a giantic dragon ghost
summary darius ... accmoplishes nothing in terms of updating his gameplay
garen ... doesnt accomplish anythign besides creating toxic interaction
skarner ... insanely bad gameplay wise ... probably unballanceable
mordekaiser ... everything that was bad about skarner x2
All these things just got added to the pbe, maybe they are buffs, maybe they are not. You wont know if they are until you try them out for yourselves. So please calm down. Stop complaining and let Riot do their thing. Have faith.
You're right. Maybe Frozen Heart having less armour while costing more will be a buff. I'll consider this from now on.
Only a complete idiot would need to test these things before realizing they're nerfs. Math and reading are your friends...
I haven't tried out the Darius, Skarner, or Morde changes as I don't really play them. Garen's probably my most played champion so I was pretty hyped to hop on the PBE today to see what changes came around.
They made him weak as hell early game, and even more kiteable than he currently is just for the possibility of doing more damage late game and a situational "Villian" system which only helps Garen in laning if he's losing. As a whole he's just extremely unreliable now; which is the exact opposite of what he needed in a gameplay update.
Sorry, but having faith in Riot has clearly not worked in the past, and has not improved over the years. It's more like Riot that should listen to the playerbase concerns, than the playerbase that should have a blind faith in Riot (in Riot's defense, they do listen a bit. They don't always act accordingly though - sadly)
