Can Riot Fearless get fired from the balance team?

Jax Cramer··15 votes·5,000 views

I mean a tank main with a negative winrate in silver making a new mastery which gives tanks a 2000 hp shield in teamfights (CoC) probably is really fit to make balance decisions in this game.

Edit: It clearly says "fired from the balance team" in the title...please stop acting like I want him to be fired from Riot.

49 Comments

DrCyanide9 votes
  1. Why are you acting like it was his idea and his idea only?
  2. Why are you acting like the rest of the balance team didn't sign off on it?
  3. Why are you acting like the play testers didn't think it was in a decent enough spot?
Jax Cramer3 votes

Ofc it was his idea...one of the new tank masteries is even called "Fearless" lmao.

Ralanr3 votes

Still have points 2 and 3.

Jax Cramer2 votes
  1. Cause Riot's policy is to work as a team and let everyone have a say....he prolly got alot of bogus mastery suggestions denied so they decided to atleast let him get away with a couple less retarded ones.

  2. Because the play testers never let any broken stuff go to live...especially not in the preseason. Remember Preseason 6 where you could stack fervor by hitting minions?

EdIt: Idk why it changes the numbers to 1 and 2...

VoidStaresBack4 votes

I love how you're launching constant attacks at one person's ideas and character because of your salt over tanks getting a large conditional shield. People have been complaining all season about tanks not being tanky enough, and now that there's a partial solution to that problem people start bitching about the solution. What exactly is your problem with Courage of the Colossus.

Jax Cramer2 votes

Tanks were always tanky enough when you played them right....but if you think Malphite ulting the enemy team and getting a 2000hp shield as a reward is ok you are probably a little biased :)

VoidStaresBack3 votes

A shield that drops off after four seconds on a champion that your team shouldn't be focusing anyway.

The only times I've seen it actually come in handy are people forgetting about its existence during laning phase and towerdiving a tank who has it only to get turned on and killed because the shield gave them just enough survivability. In actual teamfights if you're being focused that means that the enemy team is doing something wrong or your team is way too far back and you're going to die anyway, now it'll just take a couple seconds longer.

Ralanr6 votes

Just odd forum code. It does that.

But you brought up a good point. Back in the season 6 preseason fervor could be stacked by hitting minions (and warlords broke Yasuo and Tryndamere). The masteries then got nerfed.

Now that it's the preseason again, we're going to get a bunch of shit that is going to be stupid at first. That's pretty much intended in a preseason. It's when a bunch of new things are added in and are balanced out as it goes on.

If this was the second week or something, you might have a good argument. But it's the second day so maybe you should just wait and see how it turns out after healthily expressing your constructive opinion.

Demanding for a Rioter to be fired based on something they added in the preseason isn't a constructive opinion.

Jax Cramer1 votes

Fair enough but I don't what a guy who cant even play the game properly and makes obviously biased decisions is doing in the balance team anyway?

Nothing against him personally but if you are chilling in silver with a negative winrate after 300 ranked games you are not good at the game and you shouldn't make balance decisions for players who play the game at a much higher level.

Ralanr1 votes

He still has to get other people to agree with him. And the mastery is obviously going to get nerfed anyway. And not just because a bunch of people don't read patch notes and don't understand how the new things work.

Azure Hamster1 votes

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Fair enough but I don't what a guy who cant even play the game properly and makes obviously biased decisions is doing in the balance team anyway?

Nothing against him personally but if you are chilling in silver with a negative winrate after 300 ranked games you are not good at the game and you shouldn't make balance decisions for players who play the game at a much higher level.

I've heard several Rioters say they're silver. You want them fired too? You don't have to be able to play the game brilliantly to design it. I did not tend to win my big space conquest boardgame despite being the sole designer. Remember that Riot employees have access to data... tons of it. That's how they playbalance things; not by feeling it ingame.

Caitlyn

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

You could never stack Fervor against minions, it was Warlord's that allowed you to heal from minions though.

Jax Cramer1 votes

Yes you could lmao...stop spreading wrong stuff.

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

Both of you are high as fuck lol

Jax Cramer1 votes

Good thing you keep proving how retarded you are....dont talk shit about sth you have no idea about.

http://prntscr.com/d5osy3

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Fervor_of_Battle

REMOVED: Generating stacks versus non-champions.

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

"Good thing you keep proving how retarded you are....dont talk shit about sth you have no idea about."

still can't make a likable post because of obvious brain damage

Jax Cramer1 votes

Atleast I dont run around trying to spread wrong stuff and be retarded about it.

Ralanr1 votes

You could. They changed it though.

DrCyanide1 votes

The mastery you're not comparing about has a word used to describe any Diver... How does that relate at all?

Jax Cramer3 votes

Do you know why Morellonomicon is called Morellonomicon?

Why Guinsoo's Rageblade is called Guinsoo's Rageblade?

DrCyanide1 votes

Same reason the Total Biscuit of Rejuvenation is called the Total Biscuit of Rejuvenation, yet Total Biscuit didn't design the item as he doesn't work at Riot.

When was the last time we had something actually named after a Rioter? It's been years. Seems odd to do it now when the words not clearly a name.

DeathBurst5 votes

If you think that being good at the game is the same thing as understanding how the game works and how you should balance it, you're misguided...

Sherogarth4 votes

Are you this person that always focuses tanks in teamfights?

Jax Cramer2 votes

No I am busy diving the backline...but with dmg champs.

Meep Man4 votes

Wow... so much hate with so little evidence.

Meep Man2 votes

Where's your evidence that he was the sole soul who worked on it?

Jax Cramer3 votes

He mains tanks...he is bad enough at them to not even get out of Silver having a negative winrate in 300 ranked games. So he wants stronger tank masteries. One of them is even called "Fearless" lmao.

Sohleks2 votes

Tank masteries haven't been that great. Tank ITEMS are overpowered (hence why you saw even assassin champs going iceborn/sunfire last season and a whole slew of other phases)

They have said recently they want to get tank items in a "healthier" place. And getting some their masteries up that work best for tanks is a step in the right direction.

yada yada talk; Also saying tank items are overpowered is oversimplification. I think they just spike too hard in certain times and ways. It's because we actually finally nerfed % pen to the point they are actual tradeoffs start of season 6. And that's why tanks were crazy first part of season 6. And then they knee jerk nerfed the resolve tree. But that wasn't the problem. So (imo) while it's a classic thing the game has that tanks are powerful mid game and (tbh) get dominated late game by carries I think this needs to be spread out a teensy bit. While doing that though the one class you gotta be mindful of is the bruisers who generally like some tank items and some damage items.

Ireliavence3 votes

the op is just an all around entitled asshole honestly, this whole post is just evidence that some people really have no respect.

Spooky AP Kitty2 votes

you know shaming is not allowed here right? you should remove the GM name before you get banned or something

Jax Cramer2 votes

He is a Riot employee.

Fairyfleur2 votes

When did you have the power to fire employee's who have worked hard to get to their position?

Jax Cramer3 votes

I don't...thats why I am asking on the Riot boards whether he can get fired.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

And why should they bother reading your call? All they see in this thread is an angry 5yo.

Mysticman892 votes

Not convinced ones ability to directly play the game is directly correlated with their ability to design aspects of it.

Also, the design of a mastery (how it works e.g. shields from cc) is distinct from the balance of it (how big the shields are).

I am Pacman2 votes

This right here is why our world is slowly going to shit.

You seem to think its okay to get someone fired from their job over a fucking mastery that you personally don't like. Why do you get to try and destroy someones career?

Preseason is all about trying radically new things and then balancing them over the course of a month or 2. EVEN IF THIS MASTERY WAS OP, which I don't think it is they would slowly nerf it until its in the right spot.

Jax Cramer2 votes

Fired from the balance team...I never said he should get fired from working for Riot.

Do oyu people even read what you comment on?

Mig891 votes

Do you think Riot is some company that has employees in certain positions and when they do bad at it, they get moved to a different position? You ARE calling for this guy to lose his job. I don't know if you've never had a job or don't understand how the real world works but if I fuck up and get in trouble at work, they don't move me to a different department. You've replied this same comment at least three times. Grow up. You are asking for someone to lose their job because you don't like a mastery.

Jax Cramer2 votes

Yeah because Riot never moved their employees to other departments lmfao.

Mig891 votes

Not for "you suck at your job" reasons

BastionKross2 votes

On one hand, it's good to have some Rioters that are down in silver like the majority of players are. They know what it's like down there by firsthand experience.

On the other hand, I'm not comfortable with silver players making balance decisions for everyone.

Whiteeye Avelyn2 votes

He's not the only one the balance team he doesn't just get to make changes on a whim

BastionKross1 votes

Of course it's a team effort, that's why it's a balance team.

However, he wouldn't be part of the team if he didn't help make changes. He brings a silver prospective, and that's both good and bad.

Ireliavence1 votes

wow, i never thought id see people just openly rage at rioters, TO THE EXTENT OF ASKING FOR SOMEONE'S JOB TO BE TERMINATED.

if i were riot, id silence your board's profile and make a post detailing, how we wont take such RUDE, PERSONAL ATTACKS to our employees so easily.

He's a rioter, show some respect. Jesus.

Jax Cramer1 votes

I asked for him to lose his job at the BALANCE TEAM not at RIOT.

Please read what you comment on, thanks.

And A Real Hiero1 votes

Don't focus tanks in teamfights.

Bellows1 votes

I agree, we need to make League Great Again. Lets put Charles in Charge!

RÏ0TisaG00DBÏtch1 votes

He better be fired

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