New runes suck

Awakening Dream·Nov 9, 2017·34 votes·5,434 views

new rune is super weak than the old rune and after update this game is out of fun wtf riot New Runes = Patch Failed

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DrayngedNov 9, 201718 votes

I don't think he needed to explain anything, the words they suck is the entire explanation, and they do, making some champs either way too powerful and some champs way too weak, and I don't need examples it is just fact!! I love this game and all for change, but this is just like when WOW changed their talent tree!! Things that run good are good and shouldn't be messed with!! I think just changing the mastery's around taking some out and adding new ones to our already easy to use and easy to understand system would've been a better option!! Anyways this was all my opinions and feelings towards the new Rune system!!

Tearin TrueNov 12, 20171 votes

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I don't think he needed to explain anything, the words they suck is the entire explanation, and they do, making some champs either way too powerful and some champs way too weak, and I don't need examples it is just fact!! I love this game and all for change, but this is just like when WOW changed their talent tree!! Things that run good are good and shouldn't be messed with!! I think just changing the mastery's around taking some out and adding new ones to our already easy to use and easy to understand system would've been a better option!! Anyways this was all my opinions and feelings towards the new Rune system!!

Disagree completely

The old system was pay to play. Heck I had a buddy at level 30 who did not have a single rune which is a pretty large problem. I asked him why and he said he didn't really have any understanding about how it worked.

I on the other hand invested hours reading up on rune pages. Let me say it again....hours!

The new system Its free!
It forces you to pick something There are a lot less choices and the choices you make have an impact on your play style.

Overall Im feeling pretty happy.

Coldblooooded Nov 13, 20175 votes

Fewer choices, forcing you to pick something... How are those positives? Why should other people lose out just because people like your friend don't feel like taking a couple hours to learn to play? That's like holding a whole classroom back because the kid with ADHD doesn't feel like learning math today...

MOOOOGGGAAARRNov 14, 20175 votes

Listen guy, IP was free, you play, you get points, you spend them on runes. You don’t need to know how shit worked except that set pages worked for certain types of champs. ADC? Put AD and Armor pen runes, Mage? Magic pen and scale magic damage. Its like a formula that is globally accepted, like a fucking law of physics.

Your friend didn’t really want to play league on the same level as other people, that doesn’t mean everyone should be dragged down to settle for a weak system that not only doesn not benefit the novices, but hurt the veterans. The new system doesnt tell you anything about what will happen in game, no stats, just a small description. Now novices are confused AND get no benefit from runes because they are equal for everyone and literaly mean NOTHING because they all suck.

Tearin TrueNov 16, 20171 votes

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Listen guy, IP was free, you play, you get points, you spend them on runes. You don’t need to know how shit worked except that set pages worked for certain types of champs. ADC? Put AD and Armor pen runes, Mage? Magic pen and scale magic damage. Its like a formula that is globally accepted, like a fucking law of physics.

Your friend didn’t really want to play league on the same level as other people, that doesn’t mean everyone should be dragged down to settle for a weak system that not only doesn not benefit the novices, but hurt the veterans. The new system doesnt tell you anything about what will happen in game, no stats, just a small description. Now novices are confused AND get no benefit from runes because they are equal for everyone and literaly mean NOTHING because they all suck.

Um it does tell you. Also, you apparently don't want to play league at the same level as other people. You know the ones that spend a bit of time trying to figure this stuff out

TamotefuNov 15, 20174 votes

That's fucking bullshit. Now the early game is all out of whack cause no defense runes, I'd wager about half of ALL champions have no viable keystone, forcing them to pick something sub par, and now we have hyper broken champs that snowball so fast so early the game is over before you can surrender. The game as it stands is fucking broken. Yes I get it "it's the preseason!!1!1!! Of course its imba1!!!1!". They changed something they didn't need to, and now they game seams hardly worth playing.

Milamber69Nov 18, 20171 votes

simple fix, make them free, or keep the 1ip cost they did toward the end of the season.

BadMordaNov 9, 201718 votes

HATE THE NEW RUNE SYSTEM HOPE IT CRASH's an BURNE's

ORRGOGNov 11, 201713 votes

Yeah the old system was better where you could fine tune stats vs now where everything is passive abilities that can be broken on some champs. An across the board nerf is needed like by 50%. Now it is just a match of whose runes are either capped or off CD. Really took skill out of the game. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

SidelongNov 11, 201710 votes

Worst update evar.

The runes indeed they suck. Aram is dead now to me. Maybe SR is better for it, but I doubt it. Seems more like Rito taking a nod from Blizzard, but that's a bad idea.

LostFr0stNov 9, 20177 votes

Any chance you could give more detailed feedback on specific runes you think suck and how they could be made better?

"They Suck" doesn't help them fix it ^^"

turboExtraNov 16, 20174 votes

specifically, they ALL suck. they limit your options and every singe champ ive played feels exceptionally weaker.

LostFr0stNov 17, 20171 votes

Should post detailed feedback on each rune then.

They'll at least read it; perchance you'll get a direct response too. Maybe can also suggest some tweaks they'd try out.

Milamber69Nov 18, 20171 votes

The problem is that they are masteries, not runes, and many of us really just want runes back.

LostFr0stNov 19, 20171 votes

I don't think the name is a good reason to dislike them. :/

many of us really just want runes back.

What part of runes do you want back? Precise feedback helps them to investigate options.

Milamber69Nov 20, 20171 votes

I want the ability to set my runes the way i want them, I don't understand how precise you want it. Turn these "NEW RUNES" back into masteries, and give us our real runes back

LostFr0stNov 20, 20171 votes

So basically it sums up to "Don't like change no matter what." That makes me sad tbh...

That's not feedback that get them to change stuff. That's feedback that gets them to ignore a fraction of the playerbase that wants to stay in the past because it's comfortable and familiar to them. League is fun partially because it changes frequently and dramatically.

It's always been that way and I hope that aspect never changes about it.

Truth is that old runes sucked and were a paywall to a level playing field. I spent a lot on runes, and I liked them, but I'm still glad they're gone.

Milamber69Nov 20, 20171 votes

Pay attention . . . I never said anything about not being ok with changes. They can keep these new masteries, and I'm fine with that (it's a change, but that's okay), but that doesn't mean I have to be okay with ALL changes, especially ones that seem to be detrimental to the health of the game. It isn't hard for them to make runes FREE. That means . . . oh ya, that there IS NO PAYWALL and the playing field is LEVEL, except for the fact that many of these masteries suck on most champs and some are very op on others making 3/4 of the champs in the game weaker. So Riot just unleveled the playing field and added a different paywall!

LostFr0stNov 20, 20171 votes

I'm fine with that (it's a change, but that's okay), but that doesn't mean I have to be okay with ALL changes, especially ones that seem to be detrimental to the health of the game.

That's fair.

It isn't hard for them to make runes FREE. That means . . . oh ya, that there IS NO PAYWALL and the playing field is LEVEL

Except it isn't. You'd still need to build them according to your champ pick before you got in-game, and were stuck up a creek without a paddle if you needed a champ you didn't have a perfect page for.

Some runes allowed champs to opt-out of their intended level and item curves (eg. Riven and cdr, full flat pen MF) while other runes were 100% required in order to play the champ (full attpsd runes for Yi jg) which meant if you didn't have the page then basically don't pick them.

except for the fact that many of these masteries suck on most champs and some are very op on others making 3/4 of the champs in the game weaker. So Riot just unleveled the playing field and added a different paywall!

Not true. There are two classes suffering right now: beefy fighters that used to use fervor, and dps mages. The rest seem pretty fine on most statistical fronts compared to the old system.

The AP mages that are suffering is double compounded by crappy item selection.

MerdolfoNov 18, 20172 votes

The whole system. Broken. Champs are OP or worthless. It's worse then it was before this. You know it's bad that's why you're here too.

LostFr0stNov 18, 20171 votes

I don't think the new runes are bad. I came to discuss so that the post hopefully wouldn't become an echo chamber of "They're bad. Revert plox now Rito"

The runes do however need tweaks/balance adjustments and there are some gaps I'd like filled. Still working on some of them before I make a post about it.

hewhokillsyaNov 10, 20177 votes

The new runes ae so bad and not even original fire the whole dev team 0 balance and still cookie cutter builds failed way to ruin a fun game 0 original ideas for runes the pnly good runes are what you kept tank tree is garbage tank arw as squishy as mages and adcs so fu n

Scarl3t DrakeNov 13, 20177 votes

There are champs like Vayne or galio that get super damage boosted, but healers and other champs that dont really focus on damage dont get the right boosts. I tried to get a good page, but sadly I didnt have the right health regen, mana regen, or cdr, it was honestly really pitiful, I hope they realize this and change them. I worked really hard on making my old masteries and runes and I liked to mix and match. Now everything has to be specific and it's just really sad.[sg-soraka]

CRAVEN M0REHEADNov 15, 20177 votes

Never left a post before but this new system is horrible. Way to dumbed down and simplified. Cant fine tune my champions anymore like I used to. Just Horrible. Old rune system workd fine. No reason at all to change it. Want to do an all crit build .......nope cant do it. Riuned this game for me . Thanks riot

spagnutNov 12, 20176 votes

I agree, I am a long time player and have almost exclusively played ARAM in the last several years. It is ruined now. I can't fine tune anything for champs, it adds useless passives, the language around the descriptions is hard to understand, and the whole process of creating runes is muddled. Brutal.

MOOOOGGGAAARRNov 14, 20176 votes

Agreed, been playing since like 2014 and the new system fails go tell me anything of how much something will benefit me. It’s like a healthcare bill that says in one page “yeah we gonna pay for some of the stuff, you gonna get better at the doctors.”

bigfattieNov 12, 20176 votes

i hope many ppl don`t play lol anymore the runes suck rito wtf i can not even make some good rune pages for some champions

AbyssWalkerIIINov 13, 20176 votes

I think i will stop with league of legends because bad comunity toxic trolling etc but ok i trying and still continue play but now after this "new runes" think i will rly stop play this game :D worst change in history what i play all is fucked and fucked every season

geogiamNov 13, 20175 votes

I am full time support, the new system messed my game and now I can't play as well as before. The abilities to create unique sets to fix your champs is gone. For example with soraka I can't start the game with 10% CD, that was critical. Tank champions like leona just kill me when I have 80% life, the dmg is ridiculous. I can't add extra mana regeneration or health regeneration which was useful on some of my sup champs. New rune system is bad. I will stop playing as protest, it is frustating to have such under power.

DeGasalotNov 17, 20172 votes

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I am full time support, the new system messed my game and now I can't play as well as before. The abilities to create unique sets to fix your champs is gone. For example with soraka I can't start the game with 10% CD, that was critical. Tank champions like leona just kill me when I have 80% life, the dmg is ridiculous. I can't add extra mana regeneration or health regeneration which was useful on some of my sup champs. New rune system is bad. I will stop playing as protest, it is frustating to have such under power.

THIS!!!!!!!! I Feel the same way!!!!! UGHHHH I HATE the new runes!!!!

BluePressNov 19, 20171 votes

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I am full time support, the new system messed my game and now I can't play as well as before. The abilities to create unique sets to fix your champs is gone. For example with soraka I can't start the game with 10% CD, that was critical. Tank champions like leona just kill me when I have 80% life, the dmg is ridiculous. I can't add extra mana regeneration or health regeneration which was useful on some of my sup champs. New rune system is bad. I will stop playing as protest, it is frustating to have such under power.

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TeyoNov 20, 20171 votes

I agree with this, I main support as well and it completely took away the versatility of the role. The new runes kicked a bunch of champions right out of viability. I don't want to call them runes either, I prefer the tree system, and these are just a downgraded form of masteries.

2HötÂzñNov 15, 20175 votes

Bro I stack all crit damage runes and one shot a people... I miss the old runes:( Riot take my 45.5% crit damage away. My damage in old runes are much stronger than fuking trash new runes.

DannyyNov 16, 20175 votes

It sucks that riot did this legit my whole team stopped playing because of these new tunes.

AhriJeanneNov 17, 20175 votes

I agree completely, this new system SUCKS, the person who came up with it should be beaten badly. This game will go down the shitter becasue of this update. I know 14 people who have already uninstalled because of it. Im giving it a fair chance but so far looks like I'll be uninstalling too. Thanks for ruining your game riot.

PlotVengeanceNov 17, 20175 votes

I agree in 100% not much to say, and they think we like this new runes system which is completely making the game worse

SeraxzisNov 17, 20174 votes

Yh i mean i only just finished the update and seen whats happen and i have to admit after all the hard work and hours i played to get my three rune pages and to just see that they have been replaced yh im not sure i even want to play anymore.

Communist ToastNov 9, 20172 votes

Maybe you just don't know how to use them yet?

I will say most of the values are pretty weak at the moment.

like the true damage when impaired movement? it's only like 12-30 points or something. 12-30 points is nothing.

Edit: Also the comet is super easy to dodge.

Awakening DreamDec 9, 20171 votes

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Maybe you just don't know how to use them yet?

I will say most of the values are pretty weak at the moment.

like the true damage when impaired movement? it's only like 12-30 points or something. 12-30 points is nothing.

Edit: Also the comet is super easy to dodge. do u know rakan q restore 83 heal went the skill is lv 5 and hes e is fcking shield 75 health shield with this mother fcking new runse?

Communist ToastNov 9, 20172 votes

I feel like the system is pretty easy to understand already. using it will take a few games to figure out what is decent and what isn't.

I would like some examples on what OP champions there are. I mean with the CDR changes I have been playing Veigar alot. his ult comes up so fast now and with the "gain AP as time goes longer" he becomes even more of a lategame carry.

DeGasalotNov 17, 20172 votes

The only issue with "playing whats decent" is that there are a whole lot of champs that are worse off and it limits your selection to the few champs (like veigar, vayne, ezreal etc..) who directly benefit for one or two of the new runes... All of the champs i find fun to play don't have the same rune synergies and have thus been put into a non-decent/unplayable spot (healing supps (Nami, Raka) and control mages (Orianna)). So now, if I want to win, I have to pick only certain champs?! No fun at all!! [slayer-jinx-unamused]

TeyoNov 20, 20171 votes

I played Bard in a lot of different ways. I would tank with him, go on hit if it was usable in the match, ap, utility and straight healing. I can now only play him in his basic utility form. The new system has limited the versatility of champions so much it's laughable. They had an entire roster of champions balanced around the old system. In the long run the new system will probably simplify it for the balancing team but it ruins an important aspect of the game, the design our own playstyle feels like it's gone. I uninstalled it after trying for a few days.

MerdolfoNov 18, 20172 votes

The new system is so bad. Are they trying to copy Blizzard and lose players? "Hey! I have the best idea on how to lose players. Lets act like the federal government and brake stuff for no reason, then we'll implement a totally worthless program and tell people that's it's a success." WHY! I'm pretty sure Riot had the biggest player base out of any game out there. DUMB...

TP4MyBungHolioNov 18, 20172 votes

I am considering quitting leagues after 6 years over the runes. Tanks are a joke now. Can't set up armor or magic pen ahead of time nor health. They should just get rid of runes altogether. They are useless.

TeyoNov 20, 20171 votes

Agreed. I've been on since season 2. I uninstalled the game have trying the new system for a few days.

BluePressNov 19, 20171 votes

The new rune system is garbage. They fixed something that wasn't broken. I have champions that start the game much weaker than before. The new rune system has significantly diminished the gameplay for me.

xLMTxNov 19, 20171 votes

Yeah, I use to love this game, this new system is horrible... I have to relearn all my champs, and every thing no longer feel balanced. Worst update with this game. Uninstall I'm done

Cursed AxialNov 20, 20171 votes

so the new runes have at leased dropped my win rate by maybe 25% (not that its was good to begin with) but as a player who has been playing since season 3 this just sucks. I feel like I'm being held back now I was a main bot lanner and then I moved to mid now I don't know where to play and who to play cause its either super strong champs with boosted dmg and cc or super weak champs with no boosted dmg and vary little to no cc. there is no in between and then you took away my bisects....WHY THE BISECTS. they were really nice to have as a mid lanner and jungler. I don't have the cdr and cc I need anymore there are no TRUE scaling ability's. yes you can use the gathering the storm perk but that only dose so much. and I hate that you have no definitive idea of what your going to play or be in lane cause everything is adaptive. yes its free and yes its "easy to learn" but for us vets who are so used to the old style where going to be lost like a kid in the woods. sad part is I like the no level cap system and the BE system is ok I guess. but its just I don't feel the same way I felt with the old set up. I just don't see why you have to fix something that isn't broken. if its not broken don't fix it. if this stays they need to nerf a lot of champs to make it more "even". over all I don't like the rune sets I don't like the feel of them and I don't like the playstyle of them. and that all I have to say about this really bad rune update.

GenocyberJan 18, 20181 votes

The rune system is way to make the game easier for low skilled players and to increase it's lowest common denominator appeal. Maybe RIOT is targeting console players or folding to a push to increase the amount of younger players that don't want to take the time to understand how talent trees work or how to use rune customization.

ShobekJul 23, 20181 votes

After playing all season with the "New Runes" aka new masteries; because Riot deleted runes.

The game is no longer anywhere close to as fun as it used to be.

Riot. If we wanted braindead we would play a fps. Stop dumbing down your game by removing things; and while you're at it stop reworking/removing champs please!

Veteran players will opt to learn a new game or quit instead of re learn the game.

New players have to Learn anyways!!! Don't make such absurd changes that alienate vets.

The best thing you could do would be to bring back the old rune system. And let the new system exist as masteries.

If players don't want to think just create a default page for every champ and let them un check a box to unlock custom runes.