his q hitbox is stupid it didnt even reach me and i still got dmg and for poeple who say : play safe you dumb. or whatever i dont care man i hug turret and try to play safe but he did recall and come back with ton of item and i still die by that cancer bleed or if i not die he will chase me with his e P/s: talon main gonna hate this -_-
saltran3 votesYou want...to nerf Talon?
Cynikul1 votesYou want...to nerf Talon?
I'm actually lol'ing pretty hard when I read this/saw his post.
his q hitbox is stupid it didnt even reach me and i still got dmg and for poeple who say : play safe you dumb. or whatever i dont care man i hug turret and try to play safe but he did recall and come back with ton of item and i still die by that cancer bleed or if i not die he will chase me with his e P/s: talon main gonna hate this -_-
Ex-talon main here, when I realized he has huge flaws in his gameplay and is super telegraphed;
The only time Talon should ever be a threat is his level 1-2 spike, and his 6 spike. At no other point should you be losing a 1v1 with him if you're playing against him correctly. Especially mages nowadays. It's pretty hard for him to get in close enough to actually dish out his damage. To play against him, you actually have quite a few options in not only laning, but itemization, i'll list a lot of ways to counter him for lolz though.
1.) Bait out his W (rake). Do this by stepping forward like you're going to last hit a minion, then step back immediately. You're free to harass him to your hearts content while his W is down. He will try to heal back up using Q's, thats OK.
2.) If you DO bait out his W, try to be near minion wave so he inevidibly pushes. If he's pushing he has virtually 0 kill pressure. If the lane is 50/50 or more in his favor, you're in a dangerous situation- possibly even if his rake is down depending on backs/items of his or your own.
3.) Barrier. Barrier is his fucking worst enemy. I can't tell you how many times I've been baited by a lux because she has barrier and it fucking destroys my kill potential on her. If you have a defensive summoner, he probably at (no) point can kill you unless he ALSO gets jungle help.
4.) Ward over the wall of the river close to raptors. Thats his best place to jump over and potentially initiate on you blindly. If you ward the river bush however, you will not see it in time, especially if he has some items at this point. You will have to move up instead of towards tower usually- and run the risk of getting collapsed by jungler or him inevidibly catching up to you.
5.) Itemization. God damn, I love how most fucking people build the same items on every matchup without considering there are better purchases available to better win lane/farm. Armgaurd alone is enough to reduce massive amounts of damage from him and ruin his snowball.
6.) As long as Talon doesn't snowball, he loses from midgame on. He is strictly an early - mid game champion that has little to no prevelance late game unless your team is colossally fucking up, or doesn't have any vision control. He get's super shut down by good vision and/or grouping.
7.) IF YOU'RE HIT BY BOTH PROCS OF W, YOU CANNOT AGRO. YOU. WILL. DIE. He gets the slow, he gets his Q, he gets his passive, and a simple ignite and/or ult will kill you, unless you have defensive summoner up.
He is honestly super weak compared to relatively stronger AD assassins. While his damage can somewhat be surprising, if you're playing intelligently, he should almost never snowball. He can really only capatilize off huge errors/laning or poor itemization.
Cynikul1 votesIMO, old talon was worlds-stronger that new talon- and im talking about even without his E including the silence.
