@Riot can you please look at possible movespeed hacks or bugs?

Bradley Dragon·Dec 8, 2016·1 votes·412 views

stop downvoting, read it first.

i am constantly being outran by champions with LOWER movespeed numbers then me. i see someone has 470 movespeed. and i have 490. yet they just run away from me with no effort at all. can you please look into the movespeed calculations because currently they are eaither hacked or just plain and outright bugged to the point that the numbers mean nothing. if i have 20 MORE movespeed then my enemy i should be 20 more units faster then them. not slower.

(https://youtu.be/-wktUGOk-Lc)

in this vid i have 400 ms. he has almost a full 20 movespeed less then me. yet manages to outpace me with no effort.

17 Comments

Hrd2H1tDec 8, 20163 votes

Keep this in mind. Champion one follows a path that is 1000 units long Champion two follows a path that is 1200 units long Both champions go at a speed of 300 units per second Champion one reaches their destination faster.

Bradley DragonDec 8, 20161 votes

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Keep this in mind. Champion one follows a path that is 1000 units long Champion two follows a path that is 1200 units long Both champions go at a speed of 300 units per second Champion one reaches their destination faster.

keep this in mind. i was directly behind him. yet he was just out of my q range as mundo. he was nasus with ONLY normla boots. i was mundo with BoS.... just having those boots alone should have been enough to have me keep pace. but no he was just casually outrunning me. i call bullshit.

and before you say it i was NOT withered. he had no mana left and i was trying to finish him off.

Hrd2H1tDec 8, 20161 votes

Nasus? You do realize right now Stormraider's Surge is currently the most popular keystone on Nasus, right?

Bradley DragonDec 8, 20161 votes

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Keep this in mind. Champion one follows a path that is 1000 units long Champion two follows a path that is 1200 units long Both champions go at a speed of 300 units per second Champion one reaches their destination faster.

ALSO keep in mind that when autopathing with right click on the champ, you automatically take the shorter route. so no your argument is invalid.

EndlessSorcererDec 8, 20162 votes

You were slowly catching up to him, but you seem to be overestimating the difference in movement speed between the two of you.

Nasus had the out-of-combat movement speed mastery so he was only 14 MS slower than you were.

You lost a lot of distance at the start of the chase due to creep block (at 13:45) and opened a large gap between the two of you. With an advantage of only 14 MS, the chase wasn't long enough for you to close the distance.

With +14MS, it would take you 7 seconds to get one Teemo closer to Nasus.

You started off 7 or 8 Teemo's away from Nasus, but the chase only lasted about 20 seconds. By the end, you were about three Teemos closer than you started before passing Krugs.

Honestly, everything I saw fit my expectations.

Void NargacugaDec 8, 20161 votes

I also noticed that with every cleaver toss that Mundo stops, albeit briefly.

EndlessSorcererDec 8, 20161 votes

Yeah, that seemed obvious enough that I didn't think I would have to mention it. In retrospect, the OP probably didn't even notice it.

Good catch.

Bradley DragonDec 8, 20161 votes

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Yeah, that seemed obvious enough that I didn't think I would have to mention it. In retrospect, the OP probably didn't even notice it.

Good catch.

i know that my q stoped my movement brifly each time. but it just seamed strange that he is that fast despite me having speed boots and him only having normal ones

EndlessSorcererDec 8, 20162 votes

It was the Wanderer mastery closing the gap.

Watch your replay around 13:40. You lost a lost of distance at the start of the chase due to creep block and the chase lasted nowhere near long enough to close the gap.

You managed to close about 200-300 units of distance in a 20 second chase due to your movement speed advantage which is pretty much exactly what I would expect.

Bradley DragonDec 8, 20161 votes

really?? no one noticed this? ive noticed this for years. and it has only been getting worse.

Void NargacugaDec 8, 20161 votes

Why don't you download the replay and share it with us using Youtube.

Or we can just go to your replay.gg and find it.

Bradley DragonDec 8, 20161 votes

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Why don't you download the replay and share it with us using Youtube.

Or we can just go to your replay.gg and find it.

just did

Void NargacugaDec 8, 20161 votes

Whenever you use your Cleaver Toss... Mundo has to stop movement for a moment so he can execute the ability.

Bears Dont CareDec 8, 20161 votes

Hrm, it looks as if you were closing the distance, albeit slowly. Its rather hard to tell, perhaps you should test it.

Bradley DragonDec 8, 20161 votes

so what is the point of BoS if just plain boots pretty much outpaces them? riot needs to look into it. morg for instance despite having a really low movespeed is able to outpace anyone but a teemo. ive seen it and done it. i could be 30 movespeed slower and still outpace with little effort.

Void NargacugaDec 8, 20161 votes

It was a whole slew of things that culminated in him being able to "outrun" you.

Missed Cleaver tosses
Creep Block
Their masteries
Their build
Your masteries
Your build

All of those add up.

xxxDogmanxxxDec 8, 20161 votes

Maybe you should stop TOSSING YOUR CLEAVER when you're out of range. Every time you toss your cleaver, you stop moving. It only slows enemies if it actually hits them, so with you missing those cleavers, no wonder Nasus outran you easily.