Perspective of 1 mill mastery pt Ryze main - Q's AP ratio is being reduced from 45% to 35% on PBE

Danjeng·8/21/2018, 8:48:41 PM·26 votes·10,803 views

In the past, I have rarely complained about Ryze. I generally told those who did complain that Ryze was weak that he's perfectly viable and simply needed more effort to do well with.

"Ryze doesn't need buffs tbh" is something I would say often. "He's balanced around LCS and high elo. If there's a challenger Ryze player that means you can do well regardless of elo. Sure he's not that strong but he's viable."


But then, today I went on the Ryze subreddit, and there were some posts saying something about Ryze nerfs. "Haha" I thought. "The Ryze nerf joke is a bit overused tho".

First I saw a text post, "Ryze Nerf on PBE". I'm not falling for that shit again. Nice try.

Then another post, an image, a screenshot showing the nerf. Man these shitposters really put a lot of effort into making these.

Finally, the third post. A link. I clicked on it and indeed. There it was. I couldn't believe it.


10% AP ratio lost on Q is massive, considering it is his primary nuke spell. His kit revolves around Q resets, and E empowering Q. They are essentially cutting down the AP ratio of his main damage spell by about 22%.

So along the multiple heavy hitting nerfs from last season, piled on top of the nerfs this season, plus nerfs to tear and archangel's, Ryze is being nerfed once again. If I recall, correctly, Anivia, who has consistently had a 50%+ wr in my time of playing, was buffed to compensate for archangel's being nerfed. Ok.

But see. SInce changes to mage itemization this season. Ryze was nerfed and nerfed again. Then his item and components nerfed. So thus currently, Ryze is in the state of double nerfs to him and the item that warranted nerfs in the first place. But right now on PBE he's not being compensated for his item nerf. In fact, there are even more nerfs. For those who think I'm overreacting, take a look at all the changes he recieved since this rework. It's painful to look at how much a champion can be nerfed. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ryze/History

I've been very laid back in the past. Never toxic, never blamed the state of my champ. Even chided any ideas about buffing Ryze. But then they repay me with this agghhhhkkkkkk. Whatever. It's okay. I'm okay :)

25 Comments

TheCodeisCupCake8/22/2018, 6:24:42 AM4 votes

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agghhhhkkkkkk. Whatever. It's okay. I';m okay :)

Slowly losing sanity

Thimes8/21/2018, 10:58:06 PM3 votes

They can't balance him around pro play and solo queue at same time without reworking him again and they gave up on trying. He is basically sacrificed for pro play like Kalista.

Gear5Luffy8/22/2018, 1:12:19 PM3 votes

They are just too butthurt to remove his ult or make it to be able to transport 1 or 2 champs not whole team

Saianna8/22/2018, 2:05:35 PM3 votes

If you think about it, it's pretty funny.

Mages have their abilities nerfed, while ADCs don't have their AAs nerfed.

Just imagine if we had patchnotes with "X/Y/Z will no deal 80% of their AA". Yasuo doesn't really count cause he gets freebie double cit chance that allows him to get his dmg spike so much faster.

RyzeTheSmurfMage8/22/2018, 4:39:31 AM3 votes

I bet my a** it's because you said ironicly in a post "Nerf Ryze " and Riot didn-t understood corectly. Anyways my friend we and the rest OF the Ryze mains need to rally. This can't be accepted anymore.

Killer of Night98/22/2018, 8:03:36 AM3 votes

This time this ryze nerf has to be reverted. Ryze has to land his Q which is really short and bad until mid-late. Aiming this Q nerf, he will be nerfed not only in pro play but also in low helo

Sire Hippington8/22/2018, 11:28:13 AM2 votes

That's what happens when you take a hyper-carry mage and randomly slap one of the most insane utillity ults(and also one of the hardest to use properly) onto his battlemage kit. Ryze was bound to fail one way or another with that ult.

LightningShado8/22/2018, 1:08:11 AM2 votes

Dude, I feel you. I really miss when Ryze was strong. He was actually fun to play back then and not frustrating because he does no damage. I stopped playing him awhile back after a bit damage nerf because I'm not skilled, but I still feel you.

SanKakU8/22/2018, 1:43:41 AM1 votes

What I don't like about Ryze is that he has maximum mana scaling like Kassadin, Anivia, and others(Kog'maw lol), but there is no easy way to burn mana on him? He's just so hard to play.

Raiyza8/22/2018, 3:19:25 PM1 votes

Ryze is extremely good in organized play. In Solo Queue, not so much.

Riot is probably just trying to make sure he isn't godlike in Bjergsen's hands (or one like him because you know.....Faker).

I think Riot wants Ryze to be centered around his ult, rather than his Q. I could be wrong.

jocomotion8/22/2018, 5:49:14 PM1 votes

Don’t bottle up the anger man. Let it out.

The Yetii Rider8/22/2018, 7:20:10 PM1 votes

They didn't nerf his Mana ratio though. If anything this will encourage Ryze players to build Mana tank again, right? Frozen Heart Archangels Rod of Ages Abyssal Mask

Atmosphere8/23/2018, 6:17:14 AM1 votes

I'm not judging the nerf yet ONLY because he's the only champ who also scales off of mana in his abilities (not counting Archangel's).