I like his design a lot and how his ultimate works. He seems like a good support indeed. However, i recently bought him, but before i try him out, i got a few things to ask: 1- What rune is best for him? Is Aftershock good? 2- Who counters Pyke? And who is countered by Pyke? 3- Would he work well in top/mid lane? 4- Which ADC works well with him?
Thanks for your reply!
Shukr4n1 votesI ve seen streamers doing strong plays in jungle pyke
King Lego1 votesI ve seen streamers doing strong plays in jungle pyke
Well i'm no big fan of Jungle Pyke, but if he has that much potential, i'll give it a try.
Shukr4n1 votesI saw him jungling 11/2. Jumping into 3men and triple killing in 1ult. 14/3.
I think it s a matter of personal skill anyway
King Lego1 votesI saw him jungling 11/2. Jumping into 3men and triple killing in 1ult. 14/3.
I think it s a matter of personal skill anyway
Yeah, that depends a lot of personal skill anyway. Since i'm not wow with jungle, i bet i'll end up 3/14 instead of 14/3.
Shukr4n1 votesWell my opinion is pyke is a kha who didnt believe in himself.. i mean its kit is good as jungler... imho
King Lego1 votesWell my opinion is pyke is a kha who didnt believe in himself.. i mean its kit is good as jungler... imho
Now sure how exactly. He's not exactly a champion who can do that well in clearing jungle. Unless his passive? I don't know, i'm gonna test many things and see for myself. hahaha XD
Azadethe1 votesAs a jungler get him a 
. Rapid clear, and 30-45% early game CDR. Both Q and E are aoes, and once you Orb through the first clear (which really isn't that bad if you cycle and ignite all camp mobs at once rather than trying to kill one) He picks up like any melee jungler.
He's Brilliant at countering 
too. He's the only Camouflage champ in the game that isn't weak vs Lee sin, because he can counter skill Lee's skills in a predictive pattern (If you know where he is and he Q's you, You can E into him, securing a guaranteed stun, negation of his double tap combos, and after you play with him a bit he'll be close enough to you while running that you can R him).
King Lego1 votesAs a jungler get him a
He's Brilliant at countering
Yeah Pyke is a very strong counter vs Lee Sin. I also happened to have a game to be vs one. He couldn't do anything. I think he got tilted badly. XD
Kurt Hyzan1 votesSo far, the best runes I used with him are
Domination first tree
Electrocute, Sudden impact, Ingenious hunter, and the other one doesn't really matter.
Second tree : Resolve :
Bone plating, Overgrowth (not sure about the impact on his passive tbh)
ADC that worked well with him : 
Counter :
, aka any hard engage tank support
Countered :
I don't think he'd work on any other lane aside of support (and jungle maybe), he can hardly do anything during lane phase
King Lego1 votes[{quoted}](name=Kurt Hyzan,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bYEbePRu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-09T13:59:10.064+0000)
So far, the best runes I used with him are
Domination first tree
Electrocute, Sudden impact, Ingenious hunter, and the other one doesn't really matter.
Second tree : Resolve :
Bone plating, Overgrowth (not sure about the impact on his passive tbh)
ADC that worked well with him :
Counter :
Countered :
I don't think he'd work on any other lane aside of support (and jungle maybe), he can hardly do anything during lane phase
Nope. Overgrowth doesn't work. Tried it myself in games. Now that you mentioned Thresh, i had a game where there was an enemy Thresh, but wasn't that threatening. Not gonna lie, i think i tilted him because of how i played. I even got my ADC fed.
Azadethe1 votesHe can do tons in Jungle or a lane once he has or a . Solo laning is the best place to abuse his passive to heal up, and he has pretty solid clearing. You lane him like a Talon. Gingerly, cautious, and ready to throw cc and get out.
Keep in mind.... Mid.... people don't generally come up to melee range to harass/fight you. So if it's getting hot, you can always W out because they aren't close enough to foil the camouflage.
Azadethe1 votesPeople will tell you to go Electrocute and a full AD assassin build, but in reality, it's probably not the best overall.
Atm, I'm generally running:
Aftershock Bone Plating Conditioning (Since Pyke scaling AD doesn't have much armor, it's best to get extra where you can; otherwise he pops like a grape) And Overgrowth.
My Secondary runes change with the game.
I generally get a even though he's an AD scaler because I don't want him to melt. And it does wonders, even though his base AD isn't that great for sheen procs. Or 
.
I generally avoid 
because it doesn't give enough AD
The reason is..... there comes a point.... post about level 11 or so.... where Pyke just scales HP horribly vs damage outputs. He has a nice, practical CC and damage kit..... but if he has nothing to soak damage, the second he lands that "oh so perfect 4 man E stun," ....... boop. He's dead before they even get stunned.
If you want to maximize the use of his Passive, you need to have some tankiness, or he usually won't ever get out of the skirmish to abuse it. And it's worth sacrificing "some" of the front loaded damage to accomplish, because after he heals you can come back and harass opponents again.
If you don't build any tank and go Electrocute, you're likely to just be a "sit back and not actually use my champ" player except when someone's low enough to assassinate with R.
King Lego1 votesPeople will tell you to go Electrocute and a full AD assassin build, but in reality, it's probably not the best overall.
Atm, I'm generally running:
Aftershock Bone Plating Conditioning (Since Pyke scaling AD doesn't have much armor, it's best to get extra where you can; otherwise he pops like a grape) And Overgrowth.
My Secondary runes change with the game.
I generally get a
I generally avoid
Overgrowth doesn't work. I tried it. Hmm, i'm gonna try that item. Though i'll have to get lethality items 1st. Didn't think it would be good. Though Spirit Visage might work on him.
Azadethe1 votesI'm sorry but Overgrowth does work. Doesn't give a ton since most Pyke builds don't actually have much supplementary HP, but it does convert % HP into extra AD.
Maybe you're thinking "Doesn't add HP." It doesn't add HP. It Adds AD.
King Lego1 votesI'm sorry but Overgrowth does work. Doesn't give a ton since most Pyke builds don't actually have much supplementary HP, but it does convert % HP into extra AD.
Maybe you're thinking "Doesn't add HP." It doesn't add HP. It Adds AD.
Wait a tick, pyke's passive! Bonus hp will grnt ad instead, since he can't gain hp! Man i completely forgot about this! Didn't even no notice the bonus AD! XD
Azadethe1 votesGranted.... it's not much AD since he generally is building full AD items like 
though, so it maybe scales off one to two items per build, and off his Base HP....
I think on standard builds I get like 17-19 AD by the end of the game. But.... He doesn't need Revitalize, and Unflinching is rather weak if you are secondary Precision.... so I take what I can get. I only take Unflinching in games were I need like 60% tenacity, because of some stupid perma stun combos some champs have when on the same team as other champs (like 
+ 
..... The root > Stun > Stun is pure toxic)
King Lego1 votesGranted.... it's not much AD since he generally is building full AD items like
I think on standard builds I get like 17-19 AD by the end of the game. But.... He doesn't need Revitalize, and Unflinching is rather weak if you are secondary Precision.... so I take what I can get. I only take Unflinching in games were I need like 60% tenacity, because of some stupid perma stun combos some champs have when on the same team as other champs (like
Yeah Tenacity will be very good on Pyke. With his Ulti, and also assists, he can get full stacks in no time. If you play him properly of course.