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Elise 5.1 change

Zirzon··4 votes·766 views

Elise just got changed in 5.1, increasing her damage to monsters. Personally, I think this is a change is buffing the wrong part of her kit. I haven't had any problems with clearing jungle with Elise. In fact, I had a far easier time with her than with many others in the new jung. What I do have issues with is dealing enough damage when building AP. No matter how fed I may get, I won't be dealing anywhere close to as much damage as anyone else equally fed. Due to this low return on AP, building tank often seems more effective. I personally think she needs a buff for her ratios, and perhaps a slight decrease in her base ability damage, to move people away from tank Elise, which I don't think fits her character design.

I know Elise was overwhelming for a while, but I feel like Riot nerfed her too hard. I rarely play her anymore, due to how little damage she deals. I loved her character, so I'd be very thankful if she was returned to viability.

Elise Q DOES MORE BONUS DAMAGE AGAINST MONSTERS.

With 5.1, we've decided to continue passing along love to some junglers that haven't had the greatest time thus far. With this in mind, we begin with our resident ex-top-tier-spider, Elise.

This one's pretty cut-and-dry; previously we had kept Elise's bonus damage low to curb some of her clearing power, but now that the jungle's got a much larger health pool, well, we felt we could accommodate her accordingly. While obviously not a "this changes everything!" patch note, we'll continue to keep an eye on Elise in the new season to see if she needs a little more love. Q - Neurotoxin / Venomous Bite MAXIMUM BONUS DAMAGE VS. MONSTERS 50/75/100/125/150 magic damage ⇒ 75/100/125/150/175 magic damage

Please respond if you have a different opinion, I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks of the Spider Queen's place right now.

7 Comments

Raxistaicho3 votes

Don't worry, they admitted that this isn't much, they've at least got their eyes on Elise now.

Zirzon1 votes

Yeah, that's what pleased me most about this change, that they seem to know she needs work. But for now we must wait, and hope they don't forget her once more.

Raxistaicho2 votes

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Yeah, that's what pleased me most about this change, that they seem to know she needs work. But for now we must wait, and hope they don't forget her once more.

Yeah, let's hope ): She's my favorite jungler but I'd love her to be better.

tofutime3 votes

Who cares if she can clear the jungle faster? Her ratios are crap and she just becomes a stun bot in the end. You have to get really fed in order to carry otherwise you're just a tank. Oh and you're not even a very good tank at that. In teamfights there is no reason for the enemy team to attack you and you have a skillshot CC that can hit one target. You won't be doing any AOE or anything else so you'll just sit there uselessly hoping that the enemy ADC is dumb enough to attack you instead of your backline. Either they need to give her her damage back or they need to give her more utility. Like make those around the stunned target get slowed or something. She is the lowest winrate right now and I feel helpless if I play her after laning phase.

Abyssphere1 votes

What I would do:

  • Increase the % health damage on Venomous Bite from 3% per 100 AP to 4% per 100 AP
  • Increase the on-hit heal of Skittering Frenzy from 4% AP to 6% AP
  • Increase the on-hit magic damage of spider form from 30% AP to 35% AP

I feel like that's a pretty comprehensive list of how to make building AP more rewarding on her, and putting all of the AP scaling buffs on the more risky part of her kit seems healthier rather than buffing Neurotoxin/Volatile Spiderling more.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Just a shot in the dark but why not just make it 3% per 75 AP or some other number... Reguardless if I decide to build Elise AP or not shes going to go in Melee range so im going to need to build some tank anyways... So the more effective she can be with Less AP seems to be smarter... Making everything scale PER 100 AP seems rough. 100 AP is a lot to invest for such little damage. Hell maybe 75% is still too high idk, and I havnt played Elise long enough to know. But this is just what I have gathered.

Mouse5341 votes

Just started practicing with her, so I can't judge. She is cool as a character to me though, like the queen of her domain kinda thing. :D

Edit: Also no vote option for other?

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