Seeing as how the main reason for people raging is trolls and pathetic gameplay I would like to know why raging is more frowned upon then trolling when trolling is the source of the problem? Not to mention there's a mute button to protect players from RAGERS but nothing to protect us from trolls and bad players. Supposed to be ranked ques.....but we all know that's a joke.
PMT Blackfrost3 votesI totally agree with your statement!
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ArtofThanatos1 votesThe point being there would be no reason to rage if trolls were disciplined. And there's a mute button? What's the point in banning RAGERS from ranked when they get chat banned anyway.
stuartk112 votesTrolls do get looked down upon aswell. Besides, a lot of players don't rage solely when their team has a troll, but when their team is losing or when another player is playing sub-par. They'll start swearing, and cry in all chat about how they couldn't win because their team-mate was a "feeder", and how there is no way to carry the game. Bottom line is that, trolls and ragers both ruin the game for everyone else, and ragers do not get mad only at trolls. No one player can carry the game on their own, and 98% of what people call "feeders" is more of an excuse to complain and rage.
ArtofThanatos1 votesIt's inpossible for RAGERS to ruin the game. THERE IS A MUTE BUTTON
stuartk111 votesIt's inpossible for RAGERS to ruin the game. THERE IS A MUTE BUTTON
The rager will still cry in all chat, and mess your team's co-ordination for their own self care. A muted troll will ruin the game just as much as a muted rager will. Muting them doesn't mean that it is acceptable behaviour, and that type of mentality is the type that causes players to get mad in the first place.
ArtofThanatos1 votesThat's the whole point of this thread. Trolls should be getting banned from ranked. Its stupid to ban a rager when there are already things in place to stop raging. Such as chat ban and mute. There is nothing in place to stop trolling which is the main reason for people raging in the first place. Ranked is supposed to be for competitive play so you should expect people to get mad when they get trolled. Normals serve no purpose if riot doesn't restrict the behavior of players
stuartk111 votesThat's the whole point of this thread. Trolls should be getting banned from ranked. Its stupid to ban a rager when there are already things in place to stop raging. Such as chat ban and mute. There is nothing in place to stop trolling which is the main reason for people raging in the first place. Ranked is supposed to be for competitive play so you should expect people to get mad when they get trolled. Normals serve no purpose if riot doesn't restrict the behavior of players
This is why we need the tribunal back. There is no way to effectively automate punishment for trolling, since it is so diverse in how people plan on ruining the games of others. I don't really see any reason as to why people do it, other than the lack of punishment. Still, ragers like to rage over bad team-mates and how they "can't carry" aswell. Ragers still need punishments, but should stick around at chat restrictions and bans only in extreme cases.
ArtofThanatos1 votesAgreed.
Enkidusmurf1 votesThe thing is, I can still have fun in a game with a troll. I just have to realize that I'm probably not going to win this one and approach the game accordingly.
There is no way ragers make a game better. If there's a problem (trolls, poor players, or anything else that can give someone a rough game), they make it worse. In fact, there are times when the only way for the game to become fun again is to troll the ragers. ;)
And yes, there's a mute button. There's also kevlar, but that doesn't make shooting people acceptable.
ArtofThanatos1 votesAs mentioned above. Ranked is supposed to be for competitive players. With the main purpose being to win over simply having fun. That's why it exists but they let trolls run rampant and ban players for getting mad at them. Competitive okay doesn't exist in lol anymore.
Enkidusmurf1 votesMy point is that raging has more of a negative influence on the game than trolls. If someone is trolling and you respond well to it rather than flaming them, you have better odds of winning. By raging, you're dragging down your entire team with your own negative attitude. That's true as much in ranked as it is in normals.
Also, you're completely wrong that raging would disappear if trolling were ban-able. Seriously, are you telling me that, if an Udyr adc or something showed up in your game, you wouldn't rage as well as report? And even if it wasn't that, what if you have an Irelia top that gives up first blood in the first couple minutes? Are you really going to tell me that you wouldn't rage? And don't you think your raging would cause the person to tilt just a bit more than they would have?
Blaming trolls is just a cheap way to shove off your own responsibility. There's nothing you can do about their pick, or their build, except offer friendly advice. But you sure as hell can change your attitude, or at least keep it out of chat.
ArtofThanatos1 votesUdye adc is the very definition of trolling.....and no raging does not effect games like trolls. Competitive people get worked up, that's what ranked is for. Competitive people! If someone is raging then just mute them. You can't do anything if someone is trolling. Sounds to me like you should stay in normals.
Enkidusmurf1 votesYes, that was the point. Even if there's something you can do about it after the game, you'd still rage when you saw it, making the game generally miserable.
...and no raging does not effect games like trolls. Competitive people get worked up, that's what ranked is for. Competitive people! If someone is raging then just mute them. You can't do anything if someone is trolling. Sounds to me like you should stay in normals.
This. This is the problem. You don't understand the effect you have on your teammates by raging, and you try to hide behind the mute button, as if that gives you free reign to be a dick. It doesn't.
No, you can't do anything about trolls. But you can stay positive instead of giving up. You can ignore the troll and do the best you can with the rest of the team. Or you can let your attitude drag down everyone on your team. The responsibility for that choice is on you and your self-control or lack thereof, not on the person who made you angry.
You're competitive? You want to win? Don't rage. Better to have one troll member and a solid, coordinated 4v5 than to just trash the whole game by being toxic.
Or else, maybe you should just stay in normals. ;)
ArtofThanatos1 votesJust curious why you would even bother posting when you have zero ranked games played. Summing up this community in a nutshell
Enkidusmurf1 votesThat's completely irrelevant. Trolls are still trolls, and ragers are still ragers, in both normals and ranked. Which is why I posted. Raging is the easiest way to ruin any game, for everyone, and it bothered me that you were trying to shove off responsibility for it. Sorta like you did just there, by avoiding the issue and tossing out a red herring.
ArtofThanatos2 votesThe entire point of the original post was the fact that ranked is supposed to be for competitive play.....it's completely relevant seeing as how nobody rages in normals because it's just for fun. That's why its there. Ranked is supposed to be more serious. Riot is more concerned with the sensitive players who can't use a mute button than they are with the immature children that troll ranked lobbies for fun
Enkidusmurf1 votesThe entire point of the original post was the fact that ranked is supposed to be for competitive play.....it's completely relevant seeing as how nobody rages in normals because it's just for fun. That's why its there. Ranked is supposed to be more serious. Riot is more concerned with the sensitive players who can't use a mute button than they are with the immature children that troll ranked lobbies for fun
It is completely false that no one rages in normals. Hell, I've had ragers in ARAM. And if you're competitive and you want to win, your odds (of a win, or a comeback, or a kick-ass 4v5) are better if you don't rage. If you're going to rage, you're just making it plain to everyone present that you don't actually give a damn about winning. You're just whiny and lack self-control.
That is all. I'm done.
PMT Night Hunter1 votesRagers and toxic players should NEVER GET PERM BAN they should instead get PERM MUTED because if they cant talk they cause so harm to the community