can riot make last whisper items not counterproductive when attempting to build both?

BLACK REALM GOD··1 votes·1,020 views

item 3123 +item 3034 needs to be an item.

either that or make it so it's not stupid to buy the two last whisper items together. the passives granted from them are too crucial against an all tank team to not have.

item 3035 item 3035

item 3033 item 3036

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IcyPepper2 votes

item 3153 ?

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

this item doesnt grant armor penetration nor does it grant damage based on large quantities of hp, but instead current hp in percentages.

there's probably a math equation i could use to prove my point involving 3k hp receiving x amount of damage over y amount of hits deducted by z amount of armor, but i dont feel like coming up with it.

so basically this item is great for fighters to sustain through duels, but not so great for penetrating tanks.

IcyPepper2 votes

this item doesnt grant armor penetration

Why would it matter if you're asking about building both last whisper items? You can build the GW one and BotK to have dueling power against tanks. You're supposed to dps through tanks, not burst through them, and BotK will increase your DPS against high-HP enemies and whittle them down.

Malak1 votes

I have bad news for you

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

you mean the patch with the removal of their build paths and ldr's passive?

afmghost1 votes

Who do you think would benefit from building both of those?

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

any basic attacker that deals physical damage, does not build health, and wants to prevent champions from regenerating health after dealing damage to them.

a few assassins, most marksmen, and most fighters.

why?

PhDs Nuts1 votes

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any basic attacker that deals physical damage, does not build health, and wants to prevent champions from regenerating health after dealing damage to them.

a few assassins, most marksmen, and most fighters.

why?

That's still item 3153 item 3033

Not sure why you're trying to build a last whisper item on a fighter, though. Get item 3071

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

because the stackable armor penetration granted from black cleaver doesnt outweigh the bonus armor penetration granted from last whisper in certain very specific situations.

such as when you cant get close enough to your target to deal damage and want to poke with your abilities.

and if you get black cleaver you might as well forgo the last whisper.

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