Disclaimer: I understand Yi was fed with 3 levels up on me, but I was a full tank Rammus, and I wasn't that behind either. But this is absurd.
We really do need to lower damage, I swear everyone does so much damage.
Valderis Vandala4 votesLOL XD "I wasn't that behind either."
More then just having 3 levels on you he also has 4 completed item (nearly 5) when you have only 1 and boots (plus 2 weak armor items), and his items actually synergize together and are anti armor which is all you have.
Are you just trolling or are you really this blind? You are WAY behind on him.
Arakadia1 votes"I wasn't that behind either."
You heavily misunderstand. I am not behind. He's just fed. Behind implies that I am behind everyone else in the game in terms of gold.
More then just having 3 levels on you he also has 4 completed item (nearly 5) when you have only 1 and boots (plus 2 weak armor items), and his items actually synergize together and are anti armor which is all you have.
I'm still full tank. He shouldn't kill me in 2 seconds when im supposed to counter him. He had a large gold advantage, but I wasn't behind. Sure his build countered me, but its not fair that his build allows him to ASSASSINATE A TANK. Because 2 seconds is pretty much the time it takes an assassin to burst a squishy, if not longer or shorter.
FUK SLOW LOADERS1 votesYou counter him by taunting him while your team blows him now, not 1v1ing him.
Arakadia1 votesI don't try to 1v1 him, he just sprints in at the speed of sound and assassinates me like a Talon does to Kog'Maw.
FUK SLOW LOADERS2 votesHe had 14875 gold in items. You had 7325. He should be able to right click you to death easily.
You shouldn't focus on how quickly he killed you this one time. Rather you should look at how he managed to get so fed. A Rammus that is equally fed absolutely dominates Yi.
Arakadia1 votesAre these numbers from at the end of the game?
FUK SLOW LOADERS2 votesFrom when you died, according to your screenshot.
Valderis Vandala2 votesCall it whatever you want it all means the same thing, you are way behind him in terms of power.
"I'm still full tank" No, all you have is 1 tank item, maybe another half of a tank item and boots and a meh jungle item (at 28 minutes into a game no less). Eventually you could go full tank but in that picture you're just a guy with a single completed item crying that some other guy who is 3 levels ahead of you and who has 4 and a half items kills you too quickly.
"But but muh counter pick" That means dick when your opponent is that far ahead of you. At this point its just game over for you.
Instead of complaining on the Internet why don't you use a wiki to actually look at and compare your item builds and check the numbers for yourself. Not that it should be needed, you are just way behind, its obvious to everyone. And YES you are behind him, you are both junglers and he is 3 levels ahead of you and he has a huge gold advantage, you are behind him, way behind him.
Arakadia1 votesWhen was 
Ever "One item". How biased is that logic?
"But but muh counter pick" That means dick when your opponent is that far ahead of you. At this point its just game over for you.
So 0 chance to do anything or come back. He'd been melting me much way earlier in the game too.
Instead of complaining on the Internet why don't you use a wiki to actually look at and compare your item builds and check the numbers for yourself.
Oh I dunno. Maybe because the boards is a place for discussion and I already have the death recap to show me numbers. I'm not questioning the numbers. I'm sort of wondering if we're talking about the same post because I know the numbers are right. I'm saying the numbers are absurd. Maybe you should reread that.
And YES you are behind him, you are both junglers and he is 3 levels ahead of you and he has a huge gold advantage, you are behind him, way behind him.
I never denied being "way behind him". Once more it seems you didn't read my post. I denied being behind that game, in general that term almost always means behind on gold compared to everyone else in the game. Yes I was behind him on gold and xp, but no my point was that I wasn't an 0/11/1 Ezreal that rushed Bloodthirster complaining about Master Yi melting me. I was a full tank Rammus that was pretty much KDA wise and maybe slightly behind on gold due to a lv 2 invade where the bot lane refused to stop cs'ing for 35+ solid seconds. Yeahl, Yi has alot more gold than me but I wasn't behind compared to the rest of the players that game.
Overall, I get Yi is a late game monster but he shouldn't assassinate a tank who isn't feeding or extremely behind just because he's fed. Thats ridiculous, when a champion has snowballed so much that pouring all your gold into defense items merely saves your life for a second longer.
Valderis Vandala1 votesWow, just, do you even read what you write before you post it?
There is so much wrong with your post I'm not even gonna attempt to point it all out, its just absurd.
But hey, keep living in your little dream world.
Arakadia1 votesWow, just, do you even read what you write before you post it?
There is so much wrong with your post I'm not even gonna attempt to point it all out, its just absurd.
But hey, keep living in your little dream world.
I could literally have just reposted this to you. But no, I at least attempted to use logic and thought.
The worst thing is you laugh at me, for being "uneducated", at least in your eyes, yet deny me the chance to learn. I'm open to ideas, yet you have brought none.
Valderis Vandala1 votesDon't put words in my mouth, I never called you uneducated. I've tried to point out to you where you where wrong in my first two posts but you are just unwilling to listen, and now here you are pretending to have a open mind.
I laugh at the absurdity that I see, because its the only way to cope with it.
Arakadia1 votesYou didn't call me uneducated but you treat me so. Your posts have no actual meaning or logic/fact to back them up, and you literally replied that comment to make me feel worse about myself. That comment did not move the discussion forward. I get the world isn't a nice place, but it is what we make it.
Valderis Vandala1 votesNeh, its not to hurt your feelings, sometimes absurdity deserves some kind of a response and sometimes its just all too much.
Big Lincoln3 votesI understand Yi was fed with 3 levels up on me
Fed DPS champ kills tanks with two % damage items and a Dominik's, this is somehow a problem
Arakadia1 votesIsn't Rammus supposed to counter champions like Yi? And if I go full tank, that should help me survive. Its not fair that his build allows him to assassinate me as fast as a Talon, LB, or could a squishy, if not faster.
In that scenario, there is nothing I can do. Because his of what he built, apparently there is no counterplay to him. Please answer me: What could I have done there? I go full tank, counter pick him, and stay near towers, yet he assassinates me in 2.57 seconds.
FUK SLOW LOADERS1 votesYou don't let him have more than double your gold. You have 84 cs 29 minutes in. That's completely pathetic and you should know that.
Spicy Rice1 votesYou only had hp really, next to no armor.
Yi had 2 % hp items and a doms, not to mention an item that triggers on hits every other auto
Arakadia1 votesSo basiclly I can't build any resistances or stats to counter him at this point because he's doing magic damage, true damage, physical damage, % current hp, and % max hp damage.
I guess I could have gotten a frozen heart, but that much mana and CDR isn't needed on Rammus and I have Righteous Glory, so two mana items would be wasted.
And, I had 175 armor (including Fearless, so idk the base amount but Fearless was active for almost the ENTIRE time he killed me due to its 2 second duration and his 2.57 second combat time with me), not including my W. Thats not next to no armor.
Genocide Victim1 votesSo basiclly I can't build any resistances or stats to counter him at this point because he's doing magic damage, true damage, physical damage, % current hp, and % max hp damage.
I guess I could have gotten a frozen heart, but that much mana and CDR isn't needed on Rammus and I have Righteous Glory, so two mana items would be wasted.
And, I had 175 armor (including Fearless, so idk the base amount but Fearless was active for almost the ENTIRE time he killed me due to its 2 second duration and his 2.57 second combat time with me), not including my W. Thats not next to no armor.
175 armor is nothing lol. Also you realize you aren't supposed to be able to 1v1 a Yi? If you could, wtf would be the point of ever picking Yi. As it is right now, there is no point in picking Yi because he is trash. His win rate was 47% last time I checked.
Arakadia1 votesHoly crap, you assumed everything.
I didn't try to 1v1 him, I was clearing red, started to head towards krugs, saw they were pressuring our base, and was going to go defend. But Yi comes in ulting, and I die in 2.57 seconds. I headed towards tower because I knew that was the safest route, but I died too fast.
Additionally, 175 armor is definitely something. Squishies can have half that.
And you assumed I called Yi broken. Which I NEVER DID. Quote me on it, you can't because I never said so. I said damage is just too high, and this was an example.
HaloMasterGabe12 votesCant really see image but its yi - hes scaling on his W
Arakadia1 votesScaling on his W? His W is the heal.
Divine Winds1 votesthe secret power of YI is his W :) kappa
HaloMasterGabe11 votesCant really see image but its yi - hes scaling on his W
Ment E sorry
AMYS GRAVE2 votesYou built Cinderhulk which provides +15% bonus HP then bought no HP to synergize with it. You would have been better off getting trackers knife and then a dead man's plate instead of finishing your jungle item.
Also your CS was really low so you were massively behind.
Arakadia1 votesI bought Righteous Glory, that has HP.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesExcuse me, not much. You still would have been better served by a deadmans or a randuans over the completed jungle item + armor scraps at that point.
Arakadia1 votesIt gives as much health as BOTH randuins and deadmans. So randuins and deadmans don't have much hp either.
Sure, the armor would have been helpful, but I thinking that with my W's increased armor and being a tank, would be able to hold off to get armor. I thought, that I would be able to get Righteous Glory and then armor, which I did.
And sense when is 85+ armor and 12% reduced auto attack damage from items considered "armor scraps". Deadmans has 50 armor and Randuins has 60.
According to you, Deadmans and Randuins give you less than "armor scraps" and "not much health". Because they each have as much HP as RG and even less armor than the armor items I bought.
AMYS GRAVE1 votesIt gives as much health as BOTH randuins and deadmans.
No, It gives as much health as randuins OR deadmans. All three give 500 HP.
And sense when is 85+ armor and 12% reduced auto attack damage from items considered "armor scraps"
I'm not counting the ninja tabbi, i'm talking about the chain vest and cloth armor.
If you keep RG and ninjas, and the base jungle item then the rest of your build gives
Cinderhulk + chain vest + cloth armor = 400 HP + 15% bonus HP + 55 armor --- all for 2725 gold
compared to Randuins which gives 500 HP + 60 armor + 10% reduced crits + 15% attack speed reduction + slowing active --- all for 2900 gold
Yi's damage comes from autos, and a 15% attack speed reduction steroid effectively reduces his total damage output by 15%!
Your build gives an extra 35HP but you lose 5 armor and don't have the AS slow. Randuins also gives you the slowing active to help chasing other targets in the game, and helps you against their Cait reducing her crit damage by 10%, because you don't have to just counterbuild Yi, the rest of their team matters too.
I'm not really going to argue with you about this too much further, i've given you the advice i can and its up to you to take it or not.
Also, you're losing your nexus towers leaving your thresh to defend 1v3 (i think from the minimap), what are you doing trying to 1v1 yi at your top inner turret?
Arakadia1 votesNo, It gives as much health as randuins OR deadmans. All three give 500 HP.
That's what I said. I never said to combine them.
I'm not counting the ninja tabbi,
Why not?
Cinderhulk + chain vest + cloth armor = 400 HP + 15% bonus HP + 55 armor --- all for 2725 gold
compared to Randuins which gives 500 HP + 60 armor + 10% reduced crits + 15% attack speed reduction + slowing active --- all for 2900 gold
Yi's damage comes from autos, and a 15% attack speed reduction steroid effectively reduces his total damage output by 15%!
Why are you comparing one jungle item, two partial items, and completely forgetting about jungling stats. You left out the ward active, the tooth passive, the jungle stats, and the sunfire passive. Like jesus are you purposely trying to taking out stats so you look right?
Also, you're losing your nexus towers leaving your thresh to defend 1v3 (i think from the minimap), what are you doing trying to 1v1 yi at your top inner turret?
I'm not sure why people keep assuming I tried to 1v1 the fed Yi. You see, I'm clearing red buff, then I head over to krugs. But I see they're now pressuring mid, so I try to head over their, but I see Yi is ulting, towards me. Now my defense isn't very good if im dead, so I try to save myself by heading towards under tower. And I get assassinated in seconds.
AMYS GRAVE2 votesThat's what I said. I never said to combine them.
No,
It gives as much health as BOTH randuins and deadmans.
maybe you're not a native english speaker but and means addition.
I'm not counting the ninja tabbi, Why not?
Because that's not what i was referring to. As stated in my previous post i was talking about the chain vest and cloth armor.
Why are you comparing one jungle item, two partial items, and completely forgetting about jungling stats. You left out the ward active, the tooth passive, the jungle stats, and the sunfire passive. Like jesus are you purposely trying to taking out stats so you look right?
What? I'm comparing your build 
to a suggested alternative 
which still has the ward active, the tooth passive, and all the jungle stats. The ONLY thing it doesn't have is the sunfire passive. I'm not leaving stats out. Take a day or two to calm down because you're obviously angry and not even reading the posts of the people who are here trying to help you.
Arakadia1 votesNo,
Yes.
maybe you're not a native english speaker but and means addition.
"And" can be listing or pairing. Its not always addition, thats not true at always. It was just a confusion get over it.
Because that's not what i was referring to. As stated in my previous post i was talking about the chain vest and cloth armor.
You said I had armor scraps and two hp items. That means ninja tabi is included in the "armor scraps".
Take a day or two to calm down because you're obviously angry and not even reading the posts of the people who are here trying to help you.
I try, but alot of them are just insulting me or saying "your wrong". Alot of people don't seem to be reading my posts either like Harry Balzack who doesn't respond to me but makes new comments without any fact. An example of his ass like behavior:
I think it's pretty clear that you are not a very good player and don't understand how the game works. You can keep crying all you want, but you will never get better that way. Don't want Yi to do so much damage? Stop trying to 1v1 him. Fight him with your team and cc him. Rammus doesn't beat Yi 1v1, especially when 3 levels down. Sorry to disappoint you.
And example of him not using any real facts:
Nah, damage has actually been steadily declining since season 3. Believe me, if you want damage, you should've been around season 2. You would literally get 1 shot by solo lane Evelyn before you even realized she was in your screen. And this was considered normal. If you were still in lane when the 0 cs Fizz hit lvl 6 you were simply dead, no questions asked.
That guy was clearly trying to be mean. I'm atleast grateful you've been trying. I definetly shoulda bought Randuins, but I still find that match bs.
IziMytTJd72 votesI think it's pretty clear that you are not a very good player and don't understand how the game works. You can keep crying all you want, but you will never get better that way. Don't want Yi to do so much damage? Stop trying to 1v1 him. Fight him with your team and cc him. Rammus doesn't beat Yi 1v1, especially when 3 levels down. Sorry to disappoint you.
Arakadia1 votesI think it's pretty clear that you are not a very good player and don't understand how the game works. You can keep crying all you want, but you will never get better that way.
I think it's pretty clear that you have next to no real information or facts supporting you. You can use insults and make things up, but you won't ever be considered serious that way. Sorry to disappoint you.
But seriously, your comment was pretty shitty of you. You don't need to insult me to make yourself look smarter.
Fight him with your team and cc him. Rammus doesn't beat Yi 1v1, especially when 3 levels down.
I didn't try to fight him. Once more you have no evidence here. I was clearing krugs, I see him ult, and as I try to run he chops me down in 2.57 seconds at full hp. Additionally, this post wasn't about yi being broken. It was an example of damage creep.
Genocide Victim2 votesAre you fuckin serious?This thread is beyond retarded lol.
If anything you did too much damage to him given how far ahead he is. They need to increase damage from items and lower bases.
Arakadia1 votesWhat should I have done in that scenario once he's that fed? I build full tank and I'm assassinated as fast as a Talon would to a Kog' Maw. I can only imagine how helpless our Jinx felt if the full tank rammus died in 2.57 seconds.
IziMytTJd72 votesYou should have stayed with your team and not got caught. You are crying because a fed Yi 3 levels up with Lord Dominik's did too much damage to you. That's what champions who are massively far ahead do. They do a shitload of damage. I'm sorry that you can't come to grips with that.
Arakadia1 votesYour 3rd comment that hasn't replied to any of mine, probably because you have no clue how to respond.
Seriously, this is like a mean joke at this point. Can you stop being an ass and just insulting me?
I go full tank. I get hes fed and has an anti-armor item, but what the shit can I do against that? I can't counter build it, I can't outrun it, all I could do was stay with my team, but then the enemy would just pressure a team fight and we would lose that team fight.
Jeez though, you really can't even make a post without insulting with those who disagree. You should try and control yourself, for everyone's good.
Its All Skillzz1 votesquick delete this before 2nd chance sees it.
Smoke and Steel1 votesHere's what i'm seeing, and this is just from the view of a Silver level player.
Yi is at his late game, which is obviously his strongest point. Even though you may not be behind by the average gold of the game, you are most certainly behind Yi's power curve. The reason Yi doesn't dominate 40+ minutes into the game (yes, I know there are exceptions to this) is because people hit their late game to match him and he falls off either hard or just enough to lose that edge he had all game long.
Next is your build. Cinderhulk is a given, you need your jungle enchant. Your only full item other than your jungle item is Righteous Glory. At this point in the game, Yi has most likely designed his build to counter a predicable high armor build on your part. The only problem is, both of your full items give health and not armor. This means that a Yi designed to shred through armor has less armor to shred through than if you went another path such as rushing Thornmail. I completely understand why you built health. Armor doesn't help against true damage, but there's a balance you have to strike before he reaches his late game and if you don't then there's not much you can do.
Like I said i'm only a trash Silver player, but I hope I helped to bring a little more perspective to the situation. Wishing you the best!
Arakadia1 votesFirst I'd like to thank you for being polite in your response, despite disagreeing with me.
Yi built 1.5 AP items, 2 health shred items, and a 
. This build literally removes all counterbuild options. And normally, it would seem that trying to invest in 3 types of damage WHILE having on hit true damage wouldn't be that great, he literally just assassinates me. I can't imagine how helpless our Jinx felt, if I got killed in 2.57 seconds.
It honestly feels like they're was no way to survive his damage because he had plenty of magic damage, % max and current hp damage, physical damage, and true damage.
IziMytTJd71 votesNah, damage has actually been steadily declining since season 3. Believe me, if you want damage, you should've been around season 2. You would literally get 1 shot by solo lane Evelyn before you even realized she was in your screen. And this was considered normal. If you were still in lane when the 0 cs Fizz hit lvl 6 you were simply dead, no questions asked.
Today Yi has possible the highest dps in the game, but at the cost of squishiness and no utility. He's effective vs tanks because his E gives him true damage on his autos. Combine that with other on-hit items and his AS steroid and he has a lot of damage. But still much better than the days of AP Yi getting pentas like it's his job.
Arakadia1 votesThis joke isn't very funny. Not enough sarcasm in the first paragraph.
HaloMasterGabe11 votesi ment e