Champs with ap scalings for no reason

BuddyRoo·3/11/2019, 3:11:46 PM·1 votes·1,960 views

Why do champs have ap scalings on abilities when there is no reason for it? For example: gangplank w and r, wukong w, Fiora w,pantheon w, and so on. What's the point of those abilities scaling with ap when clearly those are pure ad champs that dont benefit at all from building AP. Any explanation?

9 Comments

Saezio3/11/2019, 3:24:21 PM4 votes

Because they are old designs. You won't find new champs with this at all.

Titanium703/11/2019, 3:21:26 PM3 votes

Those scalings have to motivations:

  • Primary: They increase the effect Baron buff has on them.

  • Secondary: They allow off-builds. Both AP-Panth as well as AP-GP are a thing (although I don't think GP is still viable)

ll3lackbeard3/11/2019, 6:03:27 PM1 votes

You mean like giving Neeko one of the highest attack speed scalings in the game and wondering why people are not building AP mage anymore as Riot intended?

Blue Moon Wolf3/13/2019, 3:29:56 PM1 votes

Have no idea for Fiora, but Gangplank was a hybrid champ going into his rework (I remember an AP GP build back in the day) and they did plan to keep that aspect, just didn't play out that way I guess. As for Wukong and Panth they are VERY old champs. Back then AP was given to champs as a sort of way for them to deal something other then straight physical damage to counter armor to some degree. On top of that hybrid options (specificity item 3078 when it had AP), so champs could actualy build a bit of AP and get use out of the magic damage. Nowadays though they don't have as much value and just expose the age of the champ as much as pizza feet do.

Infernape3/13/2019, 8:45:19 PM1 votes
  1. So they aren't overbearing with a full AD build. Imagine if GP's ult had an AD ratio.
  2. Some champs like Sivir and Quinn have AP ratios because back in the day, AD scaling abilities weren't a thing. AP literally increased the damage your abilities did and weren't magic damage exclusive. AD was used for crit and auto attack damage. Once Riot started giving AD scaling abilities to champions they kept the AP scaling.
  3. So Baron buff is more powerful (AKA champs like Shyvana and Jhin).