Skip to content

I thought support mastery changes landed this patch?

MurderByNumbers··3 votes·1,040 views
League of Legends Match History

Apparently 4-3-23 with 40 wards placed, 123 cs, and more damage than our adc isn't a solid B+ Sion support.

Don't forget that after Ashe gave FB she went mid, because of my Sion support, so yasuo came bot with me -- the person who carried was fed because of me.

In fairness, I do have to credit Ashe with the game-winning arrow onto Ahri, which let me get ahri in my ult and the subsequent wombo with Yasuo.

10 Comments

EVD Ghost1 votes

I got S+ before the patch with 3/1/32 , 5 cs, and 35 wards in 30 minutes

Fondling Gems1 votes

Well your kda is a LOT higher than his for starters, cs has little to no impact, it may even have a negative impact, and the matchmaking system still sees ashe adc.

Not saying what grade he should have gotten, just citing reasons that might drop your grade.

Kda 35 to a kda of 9 btw.

MurderByNumbers1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fondling Gems,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b3YxotEt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-15T10:22:14.297+0000)

Well your kda is a LOT higher than his for starters, cs has little to no impact, it may even have a negative impact, and the matchmaking system still sees ashe adc.

Not saying what grade he should have gotten, just citing reasons that might drop your grade.

Kda 35 to a kda of 9 btw.

Regardless, 9 is pretty damn high for a B+. I expected an S-, maybe an A+

Fondling Gems1 votes

Like I said I am not saying what I feel you should have gotten, just citing possible reasons.

CrotchTickler1 votes

I got mastery 6 on Morgana from nothing but featured modes. Other than the occasional featured binge all I play is ARAM (before opinions on this I don't care its how I have fun) and it was before the patch that allowed mastery in aram (same patch that made it so you could only get the tokens from SR). My point is the mastery system is a work in progress and it should probably be reset to wipe the slate clean once they work out the kinks. That is if you really care about being a league pokemon mastery master.

MurderByNumbers1 votes

{quoted}

I got mastery 6 on Morgana from nothing but featured modes. Other than the occasional featured binge all I play is ARAM (before opinions on this I don't care its how I have fun) and it was before the patch that allowed mastery in aram (same patch that made it so you could only get the tokens from SR). My point is the mastery system is a work in progress and it should probably be reset to wipe the slate clean once they work out the kinks. That is if you really care about being a league pokemon mastery master.

Consider this me pointing out a kink, then.

USG Failsawce1 votes

What?... I've gotten an S on sion support with far less than that mate...

You're either flat out lying, or doing something horribly horribly wrong...

EDIT: well actually after looking at the actual match... your kill participation is actually pretty low. your stats were in fact also quite low (ashe's just happened to be lower, bc bad ig?). and you still died 3 times. probably didn't get nearly enough objective participation either. And your gold in comparison to everyone else for that match is extremely low.

And since the match lasted 42 minutes (you probably should have mentioned that), I'd say it was the "doing something horribly wrong" part of my original post.

MurderByNumbers1 votes

{quoted}

What?... I've gotten an S on sion support with far less than that mate...

You're either flat out lying, or doing something horribly horribly wrong...

Now I wish I'd screenshotted the game :S

EDIT: well actually after looking at the actual match... your kill participation is actually pretty low.

I had 58% kill participation -- the 2nd highest on my team -- and 9% of the kills happened when my jungler ganked top. I dunno what else you want from me. It's hard to get more than that unless your team never fights without you or everyone else is so underfed that they never get kills without you.

your stats were in fact also quite low (ashe's just happened to be lower, bc bad ig?).

Story time!

At game start Ashe and I were against Draven/Leona. I started W and got E at level 2. At level 2 we got a good trade, but then Ashe got bloodthirsty and went for the kill on Draven, chasing him into his minions, while my abilities were on cd. She died, said something to the effect of "Why would you pick Sion support? I'm not going bot any more." and went mid.

At the same time, Eve ganked Yasuo and got the kill. I convinced Yasuo to come bot with me, and despite the level disadvantage (I was 5 from solo minion xp, Draven/Leo were 4, he was 3) he immediately decides to all-in in the middle of their huge minion wave instead of letting it crash into tower and csing until 6. He get stunned and dies almost immediately, of course.

I convince him to farm to 6. We push really hard and avoid trading (really, this was Draven/Leo's fault for not harassing us enough). Leo decides to go in when she and I are 6 and Yas/Draven are 5.. We're able to turn it around and get the kill on her (that's just before 6 min if you're looking at the match history).

In the next 10 min we kill Draven twice more, then take the tower at 16 min, the first tower of the game. We immediately rotate mid; Garen had just gotten the kill on Ahri so the tower was undefended; we take it, too.

Normally Sion support pokes a lot with E. But with my carry's two deaths this game, I was in lane solo for a lot of the early game, so I wasn't able to poke much. And because we were behind, I mainly just wanted to help Yasuo clear waves and avoid trading (I tried to poke while also using E to waveclear, with mixed results).

My damage was low because we got most of our kills through all-ins, not poke. I also built pure tank and because this account is level 17, I have fewer runes and no keystone to deal damage without items. Sion's base damages are high, but he has poor target selection, and when the three easiest targets to hit -- Leona, Eve, and Nasus -- have 3 armor items apiece, he's not going to be doing much damage if he built full tank. And remember, we weren't really fighting early game so by the time we started those armor items were already built.

My kills were low because I was feeding them to Yasuo.

Ashe's damage was low because she got behind early and went to lane against an Ahri & eve was jg, so she kinda just had to sit back and farm. And then in teamfights she always got dove by Nasus, Eve, Leo, and Ahri, so she was doing all she could to survive.

and you still died 3 times.

I died once when Yas and I went way too ham diving past their T2 bot turret to kill Draven. Got him, then got collapsed on by Eve an Ahri. Worth! (not really)

I died a second time when Yas and I got caught rotating through both jungle. I flashed into a 3man ult, yasuo ult, my Q combo and we almost 2v4'd, but it wasn't quite enough. Ahri (the one who didn't get combo'd) Q true damage not reduced by exh :(

I died a final time after we took mid inhib tower when I suicided in an attempt to finish off the nearly-dead inhib. Turns out Leona, Ahri, and Draven have a lot of cc between them and it lived with enough hp for 1-2 more aa from my passive.

probably didn't get nearly enough objective participation either.

I remember being there for 6/10 tower kills and 1/2 drags. Might have been for more but I don't remember.

And your gold in comparison to everyone else for that match is extremely low.

I had more gold than Hec. Garen got very fed. I got Yasuo very fed. Ashe and Yasuo both had really good CS. I probably could have gotten more gold but once Yasuo got shiv he cleared waves so quickly it was hard to use my relic shield charges. I'm not really sure how I could have gotten more gold without ksing.

And since the match lasted 42 minutes (you probably should have mentioned that),

Yeah, I probably should have.

I'd say it was the "doing something horribly wrong" part of my original post.

Now that I've given you a lot more context about how the game went, I'd love to hear what you think I did horribly wrong or could have done better, because I really don't know.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

It is going live this patch, just not at the start.

MurderByNumbers1 votes

{quoted}

It is going live this patch, just not at the start.

Ah, that makes sense, thank you.

More from Gameplay

More by MurderByNumbers