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Shaco's ULT needs a HUGE rework

Ð É M Ø Ñ·1/2/2015, 1:46:20 AM·5 votes·1,325 views

Why? you ask.

Well I'll tell ya.

For all of you who love to play this psychotic demon jester , you know the frustration with his ult.

1st Its completely useless when you have a visible buff. The Blue, Red, Baron and Gromp buff does not visibly transfer to your double.

2nd Because of how unresponsive it is. When your switching the target to something else it takes about 3-4 seconds for it to attack or switch.

3rd because with 1 hit to your fake counterpart depending on how much health you can take with one hit you automatically know which is the fake. Your double takes a bunch more damage from an auto attack than you would.

4th because of the range of how far he can walk from you before reappearing by you. I cant tell you how many kills I've missed because of it.

So because of those reasons the only times I find myself saying this is its only usefulness is when I use it to take dragon or to take a tower faster. And lets be honest, a yi would still take a faster turret than an ulted shaco with both hitting it.

Shaco DESPERATELY needs Either a new ult or it needs to be reworked.

For those of you saying naaaaawww you just have to be smart about using it. I know you have to be smart using Shaco's ult and lets be honest. One of the most satisfying things is when you've totally tripped out and use mind games with your opponent combined with your ult.

But again its EXTREMELY hard if not impossible to do so with these hindering things I've mentioned while up against a competent opponent.

What are your thoughts an opinions? Ps. Thanks for taking the time to read this

~CptSwallows

16 Comments

Talamare1/2/2015, 2:15:21 AM1 votes

Massive agree, but Riot hates Shaco

Shaco is no where near where he is at from his glory days

Joe Dredd1/2/2015, 2:28:09 AM1 votes

It's not useless when you have a buff, because the only use isn't escaping. It adds a lot of DPS and helps push towers really fast.

I've never noticed whether it's unresponsive or not, I don't play Shaco very often, so idk.

I believe your 3rd point should be grouped with the first regarding the ability to discern which is real.

For the 4th point, all pets/clones have a range that they can be from the owner.

Shaco's ult also has other uses, such as the brief untargetability that you get when you do ult. You can use it to dodge skill shots such as Lux/Karthus ult.

Honestly don't I think that just reworking his ult is a good thing. I think it should be all or nothing.

doubleguac1/2/2015, 3:21:36 AM1 votes

It makes him a split pushing fiend. I agree that it kind of fails on its fantasy. I feel like it's far more useful for annihilating objectives or just straight up increasing your DPS in a duel than it is for tricking people out, since, as you note, it is very easy to see through.

Cindikle1/2/2015, 4:16:41 AM1 votes

If anything I'd say the dagger toss could go. The rest of his kit is really iconic to him. His E is just a targeted damage dealing ability.

I wont say I'm good with him or play him. But I've seen some amazing shaco's. And they all use QWR to play some massive mind games. That's what he is about. His R is part of that. Between the fact you wont always have a buff and the untargetability it gives him it makes him very unique.

I'd say just make it show buffs. That takes care of #1 2 i've never seen a problem with. 3 is intended 4 is intended

KidKaiser1/2/2015, 4:30:07 AM1 votes

trust me. Shaco needs A TON of QoLs.

like. his boxes attacking the same target he is. and please for the sake of the clown be the devil jester he is. make it so his stealth breaks when his AAs CONNECT.

he's already squishy as is. and trying to squeeze for the optimal spot at the enemy caster minions and misclicking ever so slightly. breaks his stealth. and ruins the SURPRISE MUTH@#!$!%#!

and the clone should get some bonuses too. OP ? no. what's OP is Lee Sins overloaded kit the past 3 seasons. what's OP was top lane Renekton. Mid lane fizz zed yasuo LB akali kat etc/.

Scuttler Slayer1/2/2015, 4:30:17 AM1 votes

They can change it, but it has to remain similar. it'd suck if Shaco could no longer use his ult to dodge skillshots

FantasticAznDude1/2/2015, 4:43:58 AM1 votes

For the 1st,i agree. Shaco's clone should have the safe visible buffs as shaco when he uses his ult. Then i won't have to decide if i want to steal their buff =P I cannot say anything about the second point due to the fact that i don't notice anything like that For the 3rd point, that's one the weaknesses of Shaco's clone. If we made it take the same damage as shaco, then it would be way too tanky while doing the amount of damage tht i can do The fourth point is just unfortunate luck. That's like saying ezreal ult should be a tiny bit wider since you always barely miss the enemy, or that the turret didn't land that last crucial auto on the champion for the kill. However, I do believe that you should be able to control your clone after death,because it will just follow the enemy champion around or stand there doing nothing after you die,doing no damage till it dies. His clone is one my favorite things about him, and I do hope that if Rito does rework shaco, they do keep this small part of him Have fun and good luck on your future shaco games!