I mean she has 15% bonus spell vamp when spell vamp has been removed.
The only thing I can think of that works with this is maw of malmortius's active when it triggers.
So... is it me that her passive is redundant or am I missing something here?
Crett8 votesSpellvamp isn't gone. It's only been removed from items (At least as a stackable statistic. Hextech Gunblade is functionally identical to Spellvamp). You can still get it from Runes, Masteries, and Champion abilities
My Heartshaker1 votesI'm pretty sure most of that is pretty useless in conjunction with her passive.
Runes sure, but they give minimal spell vamp. Masteries, Vampirism gives 2.0% spell vamp (lol) and champion abilities... what champion abilities gives you spell vamp?
Miraweave2 votesI'm pretty sure most of that is pretty useless in conjunction with her passive.
Runes sure, but they give minimal spell vamp. Masteries, Vampirism gives 2.0% spell vamp (lol) and champion abilities... what champion abilities gives you spell vamp?
The passive isn't that great, but it's not nothing.
My Heartshaker1 votesConsidering how useful her passive is, it might as well be nothing.
In fact, it might be the single most useless passive out of every champion.
I hate my ADC2 votesFor a mid Morgana, it's a truck load of sustain. 3 cast of Tormented soil on waves of mobs at level 1 and you healed yourself for the value of a potion.
Pierce The Veal2 votesI'm pretty sure most of that is pretty useless in conjunction with her passive.
Runes sure, but they give minimal spell vamp. Masteries, Vampirism gives 2.0% spell vamp (lol) and champion abilities... what champion abilities gives you spell vamp?
Lee Sin second activation of W.
Akali passive.
Olaf gets increased spell vamp (if he has spell vamp) when his health drops.
dangopee3 votesIt is not functionally identical. Gunblade is omni-vamp. Deaths dance is physical-vamp. Old wota and gunblade were spell-vamp. Lifesteal is physical-vamp from basic attacks only. There is not nor has there ever been a magic-vamp item in the game.
Spell-vamp is omni-vamp only for abilities that apply spell effects.
Omni-vamp is the most superior form of vamp.
Chamuel852 votesFor Morgana though, it's pretty much identical since she's a mage and deals ~90% magical damage. Thus, the life gains from true damage and physical damage are fairly irrelevant and you'll mostly get bonuses from the spellvamp aspect of Omni-vamp. This makes it pretty much functionally identical in the case of Morgana.
dangopee2 votesSpell-vamp will not proc on thunderlords damage or DFT damage or basic attacks or certain item actives like protobelt. Omni-vamp will proc on those things.
Crett1 votesYou are right about that. I just meant for the purposes of Spellvamp it's functionally identical. But overall HG has a much broader effect. I remember my 1000 souls thresh customs. With Hextech Gunblade and Nashor's he did ADC level damage and lifestealed despite dealing majority on-hit magic damage. I loved it
moonborn5 votesit's pretty useless on a support morgana. but a mid/top lane morgana has a good use of it, since you will be leveling W first and pushing waves, it just gives infinite sustain in a lane.
My Heartshaker1 votes[deleted]
Timethief494 voteswell have you tried it? w on ap morg basicly heals you full
Maximum Morde5 votesHer passive actually makes a noticeable sustain difference in laning. It's part of why she can win trades vs almost any lane. She has a pretty high mana regen, so between that, her high base health for a mage, and her vamp, if she is actively trading usually the opponent gets run out of mana and health first.
It's not hugely visible, but it is significant over time.
Skia Asteri5 votesYou miss understand her passive. It is NOT an increase to her spell vamp from other sources, it is that she starts with a base line amount of spell vamp based on her level.
Gear Kitty3 votesSpell Vamp wasn't REMOVED from the game, it was removed as a stat on items you can buy.
AnCa2 votesIts still better than 
's passive
exiledFromBadmen2 votesOr 
CerealBoxOfDoom2 voteswhats wrong with his or lissandras
AnCa1 votesThe only reason Nunu has a passive like that is because he has outdated mana cost for his spells. Not to mention it only gives 1 free spell every 5 basic attack, its barely useful in lane, barely useful in clearing the jungle, and is basically useless in teamfight. There are some rare occation that casting a extra spell when you have no mana will saved you, but again if his mana cost aint so outdated, this probably is not needed. Lastly its a really boring passive.
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votesMorganna was never building spellvamp as a major item to begin with. She just got tanky as shit and any hp she recovered was a bitch to get rid of.
xBushx3 votesAs morg I always rushed Double Dorans ring Will of the Ancients and zhonyas and you were invincible lol.
Mazariamonti3 votesI wouldn't say it was super useful but you could really make some ridiculous plays if you had will of the ancients. Good luck winning an extended trade against THAT combination.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 voteswill of ages isn't what made that stupid it was the 
she could build and get away with it as a midlaner
Mazariamonti2 votesWhat do frozen heart and banshees veil have to do with spell vamp? My point was that you would basically get like half your health back off a single q if you had a will of ancients and a rabadons.
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votesback when she was actually a strong contender it wasn't because of the spellvamp from items. She used her passive spellvamp and got tanky
If you lose 200 hp and gain 100 with a ton of armor on it can be just as good or better than losing 600 and getting 600 back with a squishy spellvamp build
Mazariamonti2 votesAgain, I was just saying you could do some interesting things when you built spell vamp on Morgana. Not that it was ideal. I don't really know what point you're trying to make exactly. Of course a tanky Morgana has more survivability than one that builds ap. That's obvious.
LitAF2 votesHer passive is not useless it helps her sustain for mid/top lane
Catastrop2 votesThis passive in conjunction with Black Shield is why she pretty much walls most mid lane picks.
Mazariamonti2 votesThat's what you think until you get ignited in mid lane and the only thing that saves you is tossing a q out at the wraith pit
RisenDarkKnight2 votesI don't think you understand what it does. It gives her healing on 15% of the damage her spells do. It doesn't require her to build any spell vamp items or runes, she just gets 15% spell vamp like how nasus gets 10-20% lifesteal from his passive.
It's pretty lame on support morgana, since she doens't want to push, but it's great on Mid or Top Morgana and gives her a ton of sustain.
cinomenapplebae1 votes
exiledFromBadmen1 votesHer passive used to be very good for jungling, but compared to others it's useless.
xBushx1 votesFor JG LMAO...is this a real statement?? lol
I never saw morg played in JG....
exiledFromBadmen2 votesI said it for Shyvana lol
Some brave people play Morg in jungle tho
xBushx2 votesMy bad lol...
Didn't realize it was a reply. Sheepish lol
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesExcuse me? How is 5-10-15-20 armor and magic resist useless? That increases to 20-30-40 during ult?
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesbonus armor + masteries
xBushx1 votesRun 6% Runes, 2% Mastery, Healing Mastery.
Gunblade and Spirit Visage. One W, On One wave heals you to full lol
You hit a Q and get 1/3 life back lol
She is actually a hilarious top laner against CC bullies