Why Does A Suppress Have a 14 / 13 / 12 / 11 / 10 Cool Down?

King Odin··5 votes·837 views

for MAGIC DAMAGE: 20 / 23 / 26 / 29 / 32% (+ 2% per 100 AP) of target's maximum health

Hmmm.........I wonder

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Void Nargacuga2 votes

Nevermind... THERE ISN'T ONE!

King Odin1 votes

Tahm Kench

Void Nargacuga2 votes

It has some SERIOUS requirements though. You need get 3 stacks of An Acquired Taste BEFORE you can use it on an enemy. And if you use it on an enemy you have some time where you CAN'T save an ally.

I just went to make sure, so technically you are right that its a suppression. But its heavily gated to get it to be a suppression on an enemy.

League of Legends Wikia An Acquired Taste: The target can be swallowed for half the duration, suppressing them, removing their shared vision and reducing their sight radius to only their immediate surroundings.

Dharc Kaisor3 votes

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It has some SERIOUS requirements though. You need get 3 stacks of An Acquired Taste BEFORE you can use it on an enemy. And if you use it on an enemy you have some time where you CAN'T save an ally.

I just went to make sure, so technically you are right that its a suppression. But its heavily gated to get it to be a suppression on an enemy.

Yes. And even though you are suppressed for that duration, you also don't take any other damage (Targeted/on-hit only, not bleeds or burns) during that time, unlike the other suppresses in the game (Malzahar, Warwick, Skarner) where you can still be targeted/damage.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Yeah, that is true that if your inside him you can't be targeted even if your an enemy of TahmKench since you now can't be targeted to be dealt damage, except by DoTs that are already on you upon being eaten. Off-topic: Don't get why I got downvoted though. But meh.

My point with his CD was that if you focused an enemy, their team still has a chance to kill one of your carries during its CD since you can't save them from being targeted. 10 seconds at it lowest CD without CDR is quite some time for the enemy to focus fire you carry or carries in a team fight. But at the same time if you got THEIR carry you might turn the whole fight on its head during the time they are in his belly. All comes down to who you gobble down.

Dominick Destine2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=auXybGP3,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-10T18:49:36.224+0000) And if you use it on an enemy you have some time where you CAN'T save an ally.

You know what other skill has exactly that problem? oh yeah, every single skill in the game ever created. It's called a Cooldown.

Zarkkast1 votes

Tahm Kench does not have a suppress.

King Odin1 votes

Go read it up, that's the CC his devour is.

Zarkkast1 votes

Even if that was the case, a suppression in the traditional sense would mean that the target is still targetable by other allies.

If Warwick or Malzahar ults you, the entire team will gang on you and kill you. If Tahm Kench swallows you, you become invulnerable for a couple of seconds.

King Odin1 votes

The definition of a suppress is not a

suppression in the traditional sense would mean that the target is still targetable by other allies.

Suppression The target is unable to control movement, attack, cast abilities or use summoner spells. Will interrupt channeled abilities. The duration is not affected by crowd control reduction. The effect can be removed only by using item 3140 item 3139 Champions with Suppression: Malzahar TahmKench , Skarner Urgot Warwick No special visual effect.

BakedLotion1 votes

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Even if that was the case, a suppression in the traditional sense would mean that the target is still targetable by other allies.

If Warwick or Malzahar ults you, the entire team will gang on you and kill you. If Tahm Kench swallows you, you become invulnerable for a couple of seconds.

You're also immediately dead as he can spit you out within half a second immediately, and you're stunned for .5 seconds. Easy to target you for cc. Not to mention the fact that he places u into the entire team.

Rysophage2 votes

if you're bad enough to let a melee champion auto attack you 3-4 times and use an ability on you you deserve to die.

King Odin1 votes

Think before spouting rubbish please <3.

  1. His Q slows for 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70%
  2. His autos have a range greater than most melee champs by around 50-70.
  3. Ever wonder why he was so good in worlds? :D
Rysophage2 votes
  1. WALK LEFT AND/OR RIGHT. BOTS CAN JUKE SKILL SHOTS WHY CAN'T YOU?
  2. SO? be in a better position. if you're a squishy champion that close to a tahm kench KNOWING HIS KIT, why are you whining? That's like saying "omg darius is op cuz i fought him as jinx in melee range, didn't kite, and died. NERF HIM" Of course you're gonna get shit on that's where he's strongest. Maybe don't be in front of your tanks and don't tunnel vision the enemy adc and you won't get eaten by a TK right next to you.
  3. Because every region but korea is trash and didn't see his potential. Especially NA. TSM at thier WORST still made it to worlds that's REALLY sad.
King Odin1 votes

Why are you using squishy champions as the example here? I speaking of jungle/top Tahm Kench in which he tends to be facing tanky champions. Currently his damage coupled with his extreme tankiness and crowd control make him nearly impossible to beat in lane and not to mention that his Q has an extremely large hitbox width.

No one can dodge every skill shot and that if juking skill shots was that easy then Lux, Xerath and Ezreal wouldn't be played.

Also I'm guessing you're the type of person who spouts the first thing to come to mind before actually thinking it through. NA didn't perform well at all but calling them "trash" is just ignorant especially since you're silver.

Blade of Justic2 votes

No suppression in the game has a 10 second cooldown.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

TahmKench I do say i find your objections most distasteful

captainkaiger1 votes

Fun fact, you can QSS this. I don't know if it still deals the damage or not but you can get out of jail early. The damage should be reduced though I'm not gonna try to argue against that.

Rysophage1 votes

the damage probably happens instantly, same thing happens if you QSS skarner's ult. you take both parts of his ult damage instantly.

Akenero1 votes

The biggest problem i have with tahm is that you cant qss and negate the damage, thatd be a really good thing to implement imho

JustMyBassCannon1 votes
  1. It's a stasis, not a suppression. The difference is that normal suppression does not come with untargetability.
  2. Why the hell are you letting Tahm Kench catch you out of position?

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