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QSS should have more buildable pathways other than ONLY AD.

V01D33L·1/28/2017, 1:46:24 AM·13 votes·3,316 views

The counter to Malzahar Warwick has always been to rush a QSS item 3140 but this item is AD-Exclusive. It builds ONLY into item 3139 Merc. This basically means if you're an AP champion you're forced to buy this QSS which'll put you behind by a solid 1300g while Warwick and Malz continue their normal build otherwise.

If we made an AP-Version of QSS then I know people would build both the AP QSS and the current QSS which would be broken. This can be made Unique Passive which if both items are purchase only 1 Active is proc'd and both will consequently go on CD.

This is why I'm asking why doesn't QSS build into AP or even Tank/Defensive item? Kinda like how item 3102 item 3512 item 3026 are all neutral defensive stats. They don't build into AP or AD, they're usable by BOTH mages and AD.

Also does summoner 1 not stop Suppression? Its whole purpose is to negate cheesy CC's like Suppression.

Also why does QSS not work on certain champion's ulties like Zed or Fizz?

Even Doublelift agreed a while back that nerfing what QSS can only work on greatly impacted the overall skill-ceiling of the game.

Aside from Cleanse being useless against Suppression cheese, I would just like for QSS to have more buildable pathways aside from just being AD-Exclusive into Mercurial Sword. Really not asking for much. Mages are forced to go 1300g behind early game because of this item being AD-Exclusive and lategame we're forced to either sell the QSS for 6th item or have QSS and lack 1 solid mage item.

97 Comments

LankPants1/28/2017, 4:34:40 AM14 votes

I disagree, QSS should have no buildpaths and be a stand alone item. There should be a real tradeoff for wanting to ignore a CC.

Arya Riven1/28/2017, 1:48:08 AM5 votes

Also in that case can Riven get an AD Zonya's?

OctoberIV1/28/2017, 2:35:35 AM5 votes

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Also does summoner 1 not stop Suppression? Its whole purpose is to negate cheesy CC's like Suppression.

So champions that rely on suppressing don't literally become them most useless champs in the game.

Also why does QSS not work on certain champion's ulties like Zed or Fizz?

Because the balance of a champion completely revolving around a 1300 g item is extremely unhealthy.

Even Doublelift agreed a while back that nerfing what QSS can only work on greatly impacted the overall skill-ceiling of the game.

He's a shitter.

ChaddyFantome1/28/2017, 2:09:21 AM4 votes

Call me when they make an AD version of item 3157 . AD and AP have their pros and cons. This is just one of them.

Rebonack1/30/2017, 4:56:37 AM2 votes

An AP QSS item would be rushed in quite a few AP vs AP matchups. Not only do you invalidate a large part of your foe's damage with the MR, but you can flat-out remove the threat of their CC as well. If this item were created then champs like Liss would basically never see play again.

It's the same reason why there's no AD/Armor item.

Meep Man1/31/2017, 2:19:29 AM2 votes

I would like a Tank one for Vanguards and Juggernauts personally. AP doesn't really need it to be honest. Having it AND Zhonya's would make killing an AP champion WAY too hard, especially if they have mobility.