My Twitch impressions

midnight oil24·Nov 9, 2016·1 votes·837 views

Recently, there have been some people complaining about how Twitch now has camouflage instead of invisibility. Personally, I like the changes. Sure, you can't pop up in the middle of the enemy team anymore, but think about all the new things you can do. You can use the extra time to sneak around the enemy and then unleash a Spray and Pray from behind them, leaving them nowhere to run. There are other things, but I can't remember what they are right now. Basically, Riot is making it so Ambush is just that: an ambush. Not something used to run away. Ambushes aren't for running away. They may have removed the pop-up thing that Twitch could do, but they have instead brought about all sorts of new strategies with the prolonged stealth. So don't judge new Twitch so harshly just yet.

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AvienalNov 9, 20162 votes

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Recently, there have been some people complaining about how Twitch now has camouflage instead of invisibility. Personally, I like the changes. Sure, you can't pop up in the middle of the enemy team anymore, but think about all the new things you can do. You can use the extra time to sneak around the enemy and then unleash a Spray and Pray from behind them, leaving them nowhere to run. There are other things, but I can't remember what they are right now. Basically, Riot is making it so Ambush is just that: an ambush. Not something used to run away. Ambushes aren't for running away. They may have removed the pop-up thing that Twitch could do, but they have instead brought about all sorts of new strategies with the prolonged stealth. So don't judge new Twitch so harshly just yet.

At the very least its nice that he can't doucheball hide to escape and then run straight up to you while 'invisible' and then proceed to spray you like crazy anymore, it does make me feel like he is going to do the same play style as how Evelynn works by pulling sneaky backdoor jumps if a enemy backs up a bit behind the turret but puts them in good range for a twitch or enemy champion to range poke you because your directly not on your turret, but the laners can poke you if you stand on your turret.

Especially since by his 'cask' now being a Stack apply+Slow field, it makes it easier for him to harass opponents since it can keep applying the stacks and stay around for a bit, meaning you are forced to move or get more stacks applied to you, just like how Morganna's Tormented Soil can be placed next to a tower and she can simply stay out of turret range while the damage applies to minions or enemy champions. I was hoping more that Twitch would get ousted from his jungle play style and be stuck in the ADC role by losing the ability to surprise pop up and surprise escape. Sadly the Q would still have the move speed bonus that can let him 'get away' with EZ even if a enemy champion can see them, but they don't have any way to reliably CC him before he gets far enough for him to get out of sight range.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Only other exception to 'countering' his run away thru that move bonus is to do the same like how Draven can move speed burst, Jhin can use crits to jump up his move speed in short bursts or just go opposite with a Ashe via using her passive's slow applying to counter out his move speed gain and then some.

Big LincolnNov 9, 20162 votes

you can't really ambush in tight spaces anymore, you get spotted on proximity

the situations you can still ambush in are ones you don't need stealth for

midnight oil24Nov 9, 20161 votes

But the movement speed and the extra time spent invisible means that you can rush around a corner and get behind them, or wait for them to go into a bush that they might think you're in before you pump them full of bolts.

the weeabooNov 9, 20162 votes

No. It's not only the Q change (which by the way is terrible). Now he can't be sneaky in team fights anymore which is literally already countered by a 0 gold item. He's going to have to find a back alley way around terrain to find the same spot for his ult you could do at any time before. Also he can't recall in stealth anymore.

But his other nerfs include but are not limited to:

Fervor change. He only has one scaling ability out of 5 abilities. Compare that to something like an Ezreal or Lucian, who scales on nearly every ability and is ACTUALLY IN THE META. Not to mention you need 10 stacks now to build it up. His ult only lasts around 5 seconds so if you want to get that full fervor damage you need 2.00 attack speed to get it full during ult. Not to mention the Q attack speed nerf. and he doesn't even have time to build up the stacks beforehand because he's based around ambushes.
Youmuss no longer grants attack speed so he just lost his snowball item to get him into the Midgame out of his god awful laning phase. Now will have to go a lategame build, which will completely gut him until about 25 minutes in
The biggest thing I was to say here: he has zero escape so why are you giving him camo?. At least the other ADCs all have SOMETHING for an escape. Lucian has dash. Jinx has her passive movement speed and can zone them out with E. Jhin can kite and run with his Crit movement speed, and can zone with W and E root and slow. Every other ADC in the game has some sort of in combat dash or movement speed. Twitch doesn't have shit. He had a good engage tool that could be used as an escape if juked correctly. Now he doesn't have either.

midnight oil24Nov 9, 20161 votes

That's your opinion, and I respect it. I happen to like how his Q works now, plus you can sneak through the brush. Riot also needs to do some stuff to make Twitch more fun to play against. If he can just go invisible and becomes untargetable, then is able to just pop up and use his ult with no way for his foes to retaliate in time, that's not fun for the other team. Riot has to take that sort of stuff into account too.

the weeabooNov 9, 20162 votes

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That's your opinion, and I respect it. I happen to like how his Q works now, plus you can sneak through the brush. Riot also needs to do some stuff to make Twitch more fun to play against. If he can just go invisible and becomes untargetable, then is able to just pop up and use his ult with no way for his foes to retaliate in time, that's not fun for the other team. Riot has to take that sort of stuff into account too.

Mm no. At the current moment you can buy Oracle alternation and pop it when twitch is missing during a teamfight. Then you can prepare to drop some CC on him as soon as he tries to fight you. Also you can just reposition so his ult doesn't hit all of you at once.

Anyway as a rat main, there been plenty of times where I try to ult but as soon as a pop out the Naut just shuts me down like that, and then I'm dead. If you're Twitch, it's you need to destroy them before they destroy you because you are extremely squishy.