For real - add in wood division for ranked

BLACK REALM GOD··5 votes·1,295 views

bronze players troll because they cant lose their ladder position once they've hit the bottom right?

well what if riot made tiers lower than bronze v for those players and made it so that no matter what you'd start at the very least in bronze v and if you trolled or played really really poorly you were demoted into wood or copper or tin division

and instead of it being a normal ranked match it was like a tutorial ranked match with a bunch of tips and stuff that helped you get better at the game.

if you never make it back to bronze you dont get any rewards at the end of the season

and give bronze a small away from league decay that temporarily demotes you if you havent played in months to prevent you from affecting players who actually play regularly and are up to speed on everything.

it would demote you to "copper" division which is a temporary assignment to wood and once you've played 5 wood division games you're promoted back to whatever bronze league you were in.

players in wood division because they're actually not very good at the game however would need to win a certain number of games to be promoted back to the regular division. it's like a friendly "you're really bad at this game and while we want you to play in ranked at the top of your game we feel you need more practice" which i think would go a long way towards improving the experience for lower tiers.

and lastly if that idea sounds good then maybe we could do the same with silver and add in tin division which would be the equivalent of copper division for bronze. if you're away from league you'll decay into tin division until you've played a few warm up games to reinstate your LP since lower tiers dont decay.

tin players would play with high level bronze players and low level silvers.

copper would play with wood division and low level bronze.

if need be tin and copper could mix.

let me know what you think with comments and the poll as well as by either liking or disliking.

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GhostOfTsushima1 votes

and what happen if there troll in wood because they can't lose LP? LOL Make Paper tier next?

Gookkake1 votes

Well it is stupid but kinda funny so lets go with it xD. Just add so many more Divisions under Bronze that it will be almost impossible to get to the lowest point even if you go afk everygame.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

even though i know you're joking a bit... that would actually work since after a long time players would start getting banned for their behavior because people would start taking the report system more seriously and there would be a real fear of not getting to at least bronze by the end of the season. as things are right now bronze is crowded and silver is crowded. it's not like there isnt already a system that puts golds in with bronzies already so i mean... on slow days when you're the only sub bronze division player on you could get matched with some bronzies which would be way more balanced than a bronzed woodie going for gold on a 3-day weekend.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

no. just make it hard to actually sink into wood unless you try to. it wouldnt be the same as falling from silver to bronze. it'd be harder because you'd have to lose a majority of your matches. wood also wouldnt grant any end of the year rewards and you cant ever be placed into the wood division by placement. only by continually losing in bronze v

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it also wouldnt be a normal division as i stated above. it'd be like a bot match against actual players where you can see the turret range and there are little messages letting you know what certain items are better for your match ups and what the goal of a position is such as telling a support that their job is to help other players and not necessarily themselves. pregame hints for their role saying "mid is usually for mages and assassins for this current meta, but you're welcome to try any champions you like - we have selected a few for you to try if you want" and then it would highlight some of the easier mid laners that the person may or may not have.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

Well to be honest, the bracket of silver is extremelly populated that it is well known that players who can get out easily and people who stagnate there are easily distinguished, but are in the same tier for ages. (especially around 2 and 3) We could just make more tier levels for silver, I think like 7 will suffice.

GhostOfTsushima1 votes

Yeah, instead of adding more division

Maybe more tiers make more sense LOL

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

if you make more tiers in silver then you're just doing the same thing as adding more divisions without really distinguishing players since tier 1 gets the same rewards as tier 5 in the silver division. by adding in the additional wood tin and copper below bronze the pressure on bronze players can be released and some of those silver players could be demoted into bronze and bronze would have a stricter policy for promoting players than it does now which is basically the equivalent of "carry yourself to silver" wood would be the area of trolls and players who arent ready for ranked but still continue to force themselves to play it bronze would be bigger because of the placement cap being placed on bronze v as a minimum placement for new and returning players players that are in the silver v and iv would be eventually demoted to bronze i and bronze ii until slowly everything settled out.

the idea that you cant be punished in bronze for losing is a bad thing to embrace. there needs to be at least 1 tier that's really hard to sink into without trying but gives no rewards upon ending up there. that's what wood should be.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

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if you make more tiers in silver then you're just doing the same thing as adding more divisions without really distinguishing players since tier 1 gets the same rewards as tier 5 in the silver division. by adding in the additional wood tin and copper below bronze the pressure on bronze players can be released and some of those silver players could be demoted into bronze and bronze would have a stricter policy for promoting players than it does now which is basically the equivalent of "carry yourself to silver" wood would be the area of trolls and players who arent ready for ranked but still continue to force themselves to play it bronze would be bigger because of the placement cap being placed on bronze v as a minimum placement for new and returning players players that are in the silver v and iv would be eventually demoted to bronze i and bronze ii until slowly everything settled out.

the idea that you cant be punished in bronze for losing is a bad thing to embrace. there needs to be at least 1 tier that's really hard to sink into without trying but gives no rewards upon ending up there. that's what wood should be.

Well wood tier has been this meme for a long time, but i think its time to make it serious. really. The dynamic fiasco was the pure product of people who were not able to get out of their damn tier solo, because it was so crammed in. I won't forget the time I had to play like 500 games in like 4 months with consistant 3.5 kda on every match to get outta silver. It was very boring since every midlaner against you dies like every 3 mins.

five oh tree 1 votes

I actually genuinely like this idea. The tips would have to be updated though, with things about wave control and orb walking and stuff. Make it super friendly and help them be able to climb through bronze once they get back, if they listen.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

exactly

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