Could Ahri's Foxfire please prioritize charmed targets? Feels like shit when I pop W to combo the enemy ADC but all of that damage is nullified because a tank simply exists near me. Honestly, the ability itself already kinda sucks. Can we get the one change?
BeatzBoyFTW84 votesFor once, this Ahri buff thread's a lot better than the spammer's threads.
Jinx Hunter9 votesSpeaking of them, where is Ahris?
Electro5228 votesHaven't seen them post in months. I suspect they just got sick of the Boards always being against them, and bailed.
Though, if there is any thread where we'll see them again, this would be it.
EDIT: Or, they somehow got banned.....guess that could happen too.
Chembaron Yamada8 votesHope Ahris is fine, though. The last comment from them was kinda worrying.
I need someone to tell it to. I dont have anyone to tell what i feel. Though, it will probably end soon.
Zed genius4 votesHope Ahris is fine, though. The last comment from them was kinda worrying.
he played a game 12 hours ago from the time I made this comment
Chembaron Yamada3 votesThat's a relief, thanks for informing.
AmazoX56 votesI despise & respect good Ahri players with a passion but this is a nice QoL buff, you've earned my up vote! [slayer-jinx-wink]
ModAcademy Kayn13 votesStill not a QoL buff. A QoL buff would be seeing how much total damage her W would do if it hit the same target. Since this would be about doing better performance wise/making it easier to kill someone, it would be a buff.
wildfox9932 votessure it'd be a cool change but...
what ahri really needs is her dumb and unneeded movement speed on her Q removed but some consistent buffs on her damage output
Flawless Fetus11 votesUnfortunately, the reason she has the ms on q is because they nerfed her damage and she needed some help. I agree with you 100%, but we all know how much riot likes undoing changes.
NineTailedMystic7 votesThey never even tried to figure out if she needed help when they removed DFG. The Q MS/Charm changes and DFG changes were in the same patch.
Spicy Rice1 votesAnd in the same patch, they fucked veigar
NineTailedMystic1 votesBut at least they fixed him.
Orbv1 votesEh......he will never be the same without an instant stun zone. His Ult is still his only source of guaranteed damage. And even then, they removed the anti-mage aspect to it. It doesn't make sense with his kit or Lore anymore...but it's functional.
NineTailedMystic4 votesBecause instant stuns weren't healthy and it felt bad to play against Veigar because you got punished for buying your primary stat and as an AP. Game health > lore/thematics.
Nut on my Butt2 votesEh......he will never be the same without an instant stun zone.
Good! That instant, aoe, 2+ second stun was a cancer this game doesn't need.
He got more range and stacking potential on his Q, and it's not a hard skillshot to land at all. His ability hits now give him AP, so he can trade without worrying about a loss of stacks, and his ult having execute damage makes it more consistently strong against all champions in a game where the majority of champions do not stack AP.
wildfox993 votes[{quoted}](name=Blended Fetus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=alEG0Z5l,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-01-22T00:27:07.891+0000)
Unfortunately, the reason she has the ms on q is because they nerfed her damage and she needed some help. I agree with you 100%, but we all know how much riot likes undoing changes.
just want to make an example,once i played a game (if you look at my match history it is not my last game where i faced an ahri as well,it was a while ago) where i was against an ahri (she went like 5/3) as syndra (i was like 2/7) both with about 2 items + boots, we needed to make a pick so i started to dance on her face,she hit a full E Q R W R R 
combo on me and i survived because i had 
,i proceed to Q E W R and kill her like nothing is happened
sure i'm an ahri otp so i knew i wouldn't die,it was a calculated risk,but it was so tilting for both me and my enemy seeing how she couldn't win even playing correctly against someone who was literally trolling
making her W more reliant would be nice,but it wouldn't change the fact that some supports have better scalings than her
somehow she needs her safeness be removed,if not her Q (because we know riot is too stubborn) just swap her E damage in a mark that needs a foxfire or an AA for popping and dealing bonus damage (so you need to get near,no longer E>Q poke),or changing her ult dash to 2 but adding an additional free dash after a takedown,is not like there is no way to balance her,it's just that riot actually likes her being played as charm bot so nobody complain (not a random whine,is in my opinion what her changes were made for : more safeness and power on her E/Q,less 1 vs 1 and teamfight potential potential)
Jet Sett16 votesI hate Ahri with a passion, but I think this would be a good change. Targeting QoL is always important to me.
Crystalysk11 votesThis is acceptable. Nice idea and best wishes.
Chembaron Yamada11 votesI thought I read somewhere that her W prioritizes targets you auto attacked, is that true or does my memory betray me?
banlun4 votesno it doesn't. Ahris W is completely useless because it does no damage whatsoever.
Chembaron Yamada2 votesThanks for informing me. In that case, I will upvote and support this change.
Sexy Jack Rabbit7 votesThe person above didn't actually help you at all lmao.
You are right, foxfire prioritizes Ahri's most recent AA target. However it's a little bit complicated at the same time.
Foxfire prioritizes nearby champions, but does not have a buffer period when it comes to targeting. Basically meaning the Foxfire chooses a target if one is available.
If you W when you are NOT in range of an enemy champion, it will choose your most recently AA'd target. But if you move into W range of a champion this will change the targeting AI (If you can call it that) to target champions, but since you were in the vicinity of previously AA'd minions in the meantime, the Fire's have already targetted the minions and fired off.
It's mostly a case of the Foxfire targetting AI being wacky af and lacking consistency.
PeachyBubbleStar10 votesyeah it's really irritating and makes w near useless in team fights it should shoot at the target you charm or something
Wînter Fox9 votesThat's actually a very good suggestion. +1
Rexxiee7 votesIt wouldnt help her honestly.
She needs more damage, her scaling is so bad that building adc crit items gives her more damage than going ap.
Ahri Baka6 votesMeh , I still want Ahri to get her charm ignore minions , it's hard to hit unless you have ult anyway and that's not what bothers me , I just hate it how it can be blocked by Elise Spiders and Malzhar's Cockroaches
Bârd9 votesSpiders and Voidlings, maybe.
Regular creeps? Hell no, too much.
Drugoth5 votesAgreed, foxfire is a terrible ability, please rework Riot! [sg-ahri-1]
nice table4 votesmake her w prioritize charmed targets and give it -20% damage against uncharmed targets while giving it +10% damage against recently charmed targets ... now wouldn't that be nice?
Slythion4 votes50-52% win rate 5.5-6% play rate http://champion.gg/champion/ahri/Middle? http://na.op.gg/champion/ahri/statistics/mid
so could you explain why does she need any kind of straight buff?
I strongly suspect this is another case of "it doesn't feel right gameplay-wise so it must be bad balance-wise" mistake that is all too common on the boards.
Ahri Body Pillow7 votesErrr...because win rates aren't a good gauge of how fun a champion is to play against/play as? Pre-rework LeBlanc had a god awful winrate, somewhere in the 40s. She still felt like shit to play against. This Foxfire interaction simply feels awful for Ahri and rewards players who happen to just be in the vicinity of a tank.
Slythion1 votes...read the last part of my comment. I literally specifically address the exact logical fallacy you're presenting
just because it's not fun or doesn't feel right doesn't mean the champion isn't already in a good spot balance-wise
In simple terms:
you're using gameplay health to justify balance changes, and they aren't always 1:1. An unhealthy champion can be balanced
Ahri Body Pillow4 votesI didn't say it was bad balance-wise. I'm just saying that the ability itself is already weak, and having such wonky interactions makes it feel even worse. It just needs to feel a bit smoother/user friendly.
Besides, this whole "games shouldn't be balanced around what's fun" argument seriously needs to stop. Do you understand what exactly a game is?
2Charmnot2Charm11 votesHer winrate is that high because ahri is the champion least likely to feed making the game harder for her own teammates so they can carry her.
Basically she has no impact and her job is to look cute. I dropped her in favor of being a support main now since i have an easier time impacting the game positively for my team.
Slythion3 votesI'm quite aware of her playstyle and game impact. She follows Janna's influence where it's really easy to not be a drag on your team so you're statistically guaranteed to have an even winrate. What I don't understand how people aren't getting the last line of my sentence.
Ahri is a balanced, and even statistically a strong pick right now. I'll take a quote from my latest response to Ahri Body Pillow:
"You're buffing a weak ability on a champion that doesn't need buffs overall, which makes 0 sense from a balance perspective. I'm all for making a champion feel better and play smoother, but a straight buff to a balanced champion is undeniably not the way to do it."
She doesn't lose her safety, but she gains impact. That doesn't make sense from a balance perspective, and that's why a straight buff makes 0 sense. If you want to make her play smoother through buffs, she needs to give something up in return. Buff a balanced champion = needs a compensation nerf
That's basic balance 101, yaknow?
Ahri Inari7 votesI'm quite aware of her playstyle and game impact. She follows Janna's influence where it's really easy to not be a drag on your team so you're statistically guaranteed to have an even winrate. What I don't understand how people aren't getting the last line of my sentence.
Ahri is a balanced, and even statistically a strong pick right now. I'll take a quote from my latest response to Ahri Body Pillow:
"You're buffing a weak ability on a champion that doesn't need buffs overall, which makes 0 sense from a balance perspective. I'm all for making a champion feel better and play smoother, but a straight buff to a balanced champion is undeniably not the way to do it."
She doesn't lose her safety, but she gains impact. That doesn't make sense from a balance perspective, and that's why a straight buff makes 0 sense. If you want to make her play smoother through buffs, she needs to give something up in return. Buff a balanced champion = needs a compensation nerf
That's basic balance 101, yaknow?
It's so rare to see her in Diamond+ elo (1.2% pick rate) and non existant in profesionnal play. When I meet a Ahri player they are one thrick like me. She's also a champion that people don't ban even when she's strong letting her play favorable matchup more often. I'd not say she's weak, I'd say she weak in high elo and average overall. You can say some champion have to be beginner friendly but it was originally not the case so some Ahri player feel cheated about her rework in season 5 and they keep removing her skill expression later.
Her firefox (w) has q huge QoL problem, not only it's frustrating for whoever play against a fed Ahri and get kill by auto target, but it's also frustrating for the Ahri player because its AI is buggy and bad designed, it mess up easly and is non skill expressive. In other word, nobody like her W.
TheDespoiler4 votesI too like champs whose main mechanic is running backwards and throwing q for true damage and kiting ability. Sincerely, a bronze tank/bruiser player
Ahri Body Pillow17 votesAhri's true damage isn't even that great. Vel Koz does more true damage than her lol.
Jinx Hunter8 votesI too like champs whose main mechanic is running backwards and throwing q for true damage and kiting ability. Sincerely, a bronze tank/bruiser player
As a bruiser you should not be going for the fox girl. Ignore her low damage ass and kill her ADC. Who cares if you can't catch her if she does no damage?
If your diving on the Ahri as a bruiser or chasing as a tank. Then you are seriously doing the wrong thing.
NineTailedMystic10 votesthat sick 140 + .35 AP true damage
SwiftKitten884 votesi woudl actually be fine with this. at least when i die to ahri it feels like i got outplayed (unless she is fed) , dash/flash orb redirect or a good charm.
do dont feel as bad dying to that, when you have champs like 
2 shotting you.
i have a similar issue with 
for some season even if you clicked directly on a target with a taregted pounce it donest count as choosing them for your next auto attack.. some there are time if a minion or tower is nearby that my takedown will hit that instead (and considering takedown does more damage than her spear when the enemy is low) it normally means you die because of it.
that being said.. its been quite a while since i have had it happen it.. so this may already be fixed
Krij33n4 votesShe does need a major stat overhaul, compared to other mid laners, she has very less to bring to the table and she only is able to excel if the mid laner or the jungler of the opposing team keep making mistakes when ganking her and then feeding her, but if its a stale game then, ahri has very less to no impact at times
Emo Twink2 votesEzreal should have the same thing on his blink. Regardless I agree, i miss playing Ahri..
Rathar Dashing6 votesYeah, it should prioritize enemies Ezreal charmed.
AetherArising4 votesi mean he's managed to charm 
so
HP Crookshanks2 votesHer W obviously needs a rework but sadly Riot doesn't care about Ahri.
Rathar Dashing3 votesIf that were true she wouldn't get a skin every few months.
HP Crookshanks4 votesShe gets 1 skin in a year like most of the other champions but no one complains about Jhin who got 3 skins in a year.