When you can stil lgo positive be super ahead and your lane and STILL lose the game because everyone else is to far behind or someone else on the enemie team just deals more damage out right to you than you do :|
Jamaree1 votesI'm not sure how to answer that, because you are playing the game?
Captainn Ginyu2 votesI'm not sure how to answer that, because you are playing the game?
sometimes it feels like im better off not playing or baby sitting eveyr other damn lane the jungler cant :|
Jamaree1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T07:11:54.081+0000)
sometimes it feels like im better off not playing or baby sitting eveyr other damn lane the jungler cant :|
Then don't?
Captainn Ginyu2 votesThen don't?
I don’t want that to be the option I like playing this game but I guess I’m gonna have to
Jamaree1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T08:21:33.055+0000)
I don’t want that to be the option I like playing this game but I guess I’m gonna have to
Either accept that at times, people are gonna suck shit, or leave are your only two options.
Ash Lockheart1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T08:21:33.055+0000)
I don’t want that to be the option I like playing this game but I guess I’m gonna have to
Got to miss the old days were if you were good enough you could do anything.
Phieldworker1 votesIt’s part of the game. If you opt into a team game you have to remember that can be cool fun stomp games, duels back and forth testing each teams minds or the worst of the three a stomp fest on your team. I didn’t do so got my last rank game but I understood the win condition and so I played to that and grouped.
But what I’m getting at is going to play a team game like league you have to expect to reap the benefits of a good team or deal with the consequences of a not so hot team.
Captainn Ginyu2 votesIt’s part of the game. If you opt into a team game you have to remember that can be cool fun stomp games, duels back and forth testing each teams minds or the worst of the three a stomp fest on your team. I didn’t do so got my last rank game but I understood the win condition and so I played to that and grouped.
But what I’m getting at is going to play a team game like league you have to expect to reap the benefits of a good team or deal with the consequences of a not so hot team.
as much as i agree with you im still stuck in bronze everyone here wants to be the next faker and refuses to do anything thats not for them selves 90% of the time
Thingamajig1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-07T07:26:03.489+0000)
as much as i agree with you im still stuck in bronze everyone here wants to be the next faker and refuses to do anything thats not for them selves 90% of the time
split pushing is the only strategy a player needs to learn to get to platinum honestly split pushing is cheating in low elo
you can win insane deficits just because people don't look at their maps and don't know how to respond to splitting nasus yorick trynd ekko teemo etc can just stay top and win nearly every game
being stuck in bronze iron gold is just you being bad not your teams failing at being faker
Captainn Ginyu2 votessplit pushing is the only strategy a player needs to learn to get to platinum honestly split pushing is cheating in low elo
you can win insane deficits just because people don't look at their maps and don't know how to respond to splitting nasus yorick trynd ekko teemo etc can just stay top and win nearly every game
being stuck in bronze iron gold is just you being bad not your teams failing at being faker
"is just you being bad" <--- see now its these kinds of statements that make people void your opinion cause now i cant tell if your just being an asshole or helpful but fine ill take your advice but in the future dont judge people like that less you want to be judged in return
Thingamajig1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T07:41:01.191+0000)
"is just you being bad" <--- see now its these kinds of statements that make people void your opinion cause now i cant tell if your just being an asshole or helpful but fine ill take your advice but in the future dont judge people like that less you want to be judged in return
it's your own choice to listen to me or not the fact is any one that has reached any elo above p1 knows that even if they tried they can't get stuck in an elo below p4
once i reached d4 for the first time on every smurf and every season later i breezed through the low elos even while trolling my ass off with stuff like leona top for example
hell ive created smurfs to play some specific champs too for example i wanted to learn kindred in s7 but after 20 games i lost nearly all of them on my main had like 20% win rate so i created a smurf and got it to p2 in 50 games from unranked
you can learn how to win the game or you can rely on your team to win it for you which one do you think has a higher chance of success?
Captainn Ginyu2 votesit's your own choice to listen to me or not the fact is any one that has reached any elo above p1 knows that even if they tried they can't get stuck in an elo below p4
once i reached d4 for the first time on every smurf and every season later i breezed through the low elos even while trolling my ass off with stuff like leona top for example
hell ive created smurfs to play some specific champs too for example i wanted to learn kindred in s7 but after 20 games i lost nearly all of them on my main had like 20% win rate so i created a smurf and got it to p2 in 50 games from unranked
you can learn how to win the game or you can rely on your team to win it for you which one do you think has a higher chance of success?
I don’t recall saying I wanted my team to win it for me I do how ever want my teams to work with each other to win rather than everyone doing there own things
Thingamajig1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T08:33:23.997+0000)
I don’t recall saying I wanted my team to win it for me I do how ever want my teams to work with each other to win rather than everyone doing there own things
thats not happening
have you watched tfblade? even in his top 10 challenger games his teams don't cooperate with each other
Captainn Ginyu2 votesthats not happening
have you watched tfblade? even in his top 10 challenger games his teams don't cooperate with each other
Then what’s the point of a team game if no ones gonna be a team
Thingamajig1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-07T08:40:54.452+0000)
Then what’s the point of a team game if no ones gonna be a team
because you can't win 1v5
soloq is about learning what your role can contribute to winning not winning every game
Ash Lockheart2 votessplit pushing is the only strategy a player needs to learn to get to platinum honestly split pushing is cheating in low elo
you can win insane deficits just because people don't look at their maps and don't know how to respond to splitting nasus yorick trynd ekko teemo etc can just stay top and win nearly every game
being stuck in bronze iron gold is just you being bad not your teams failing at being faker
Seen too many games were top is split push all game, and feeds because one person vs 5 is easy to get fed from even if they are ahead. Does split work. Sure once in a while, but not all the time.
Thingamajig2 votes[{quoted}](name=Ash Lockheart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-05-07T09:03:41.948+0000)
Seen too many games were top is split push all game, and feeds because one person vs 5 is easy to get fed from even if they are ahead. Does split work. Sure once in a while, but not all the time.
you are referring to rage splitting and not actual splitting
Phieldworker2 votesThat’s understandable. A tip that helped me was farm as much as possible in lane phase that way when it’s time to group you’ll be stronger than the enemy.
Ash Lockheart1 votes[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-07T07:06:18.225+0000)
When you can stil lgo positive be super ahead and your lane and STILL lose the game because everyone else is to far behind or someone else on the enemie team just deals more damage out right to you than you do :|
Because they don't like the idea of one player winning. They want the whole team to win it. Not one. Got to love team base games that are heavy on how the team does, and not just one person.
ReySolomon1 votesI spammed Vladimir mid bronze to plat 1..
BUT this was season 7-8 and this season seems harder to climb for no reason.
xDogMeatx1 votesdont forget how the enemy team is somehow more tanky even though they have damage items despite you blowing your whole kit on them.
Sona Ping1 votesWell, what's the solution? What do you suggest? Because what can even be done about that.
You did well and got super ahead in lane. That's great.
[{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ajghN71I,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-07T07:06:18.225+0000)
When you can stil lgo positive be super ahead and your lane and STILL lose the game because everyone else is to far behind or someone else on the enemie team just deals more damage out right to you than you do :|
But as you said, the other lanes on the opposing also played well OR there's a guy who played even better and got mega ahead. So then, the game has you who did well versus their guys who did well and you lose.
You feel like there's a lack of point because you feel you weren't rewarded with a win. That's a fair feeling, sure. But if you did and the game made it so, what about the other mega ahead guy? Doesn't he "deserve" the win as well? If that happened he would be here making this thread like you are. And then if that did happen, the next game you could be the mega ahead guy and got the loss just the same as him. The only way to get you both a win is for him to get swapped sides at 15 mins so the other team can get a miserable stomp for the rest of the game, and that would make it pretty unfair to the teammate(s) that got him mega ahead and also deserved to win, whether it's by initiating the picks or making pressure. That's too unreasonable to even consider.
So what's the solution?