who even wanted autofill riot

KennysDreamGirl·Feb 24, 2018·4 votes·460 views

honestly answer this (which i know you wont) who even wanted this shit system, ruining games because people got roles they cant play? honestly this is the worst thing riot has ever done, intentionally ruining ranked games getting 2-3 people autofilled in one game. id much rather take trist and twitch being op than have autofill in my ranked games. this is one of those things that makes me wanna go hashinshin on riot but im not going to but honestly nobody asked for this shit riot

17 Comments

AnghatinearoFeb 24, 20182 votes

Yup. Everyone knows autofill is aids. Leave it in gold down so they can just have fun spamming games and remove it entirely plat+ cuz most people actually serious about the game would be ok waiting a couple more minutes for a non shithole of a matchmaking

AnomanderFeb 24, 20182 votes

I choose fill probably 90% of the time. I like having shorter queue times and don't care what role i play.

AnghatinearoFeb 24, 20181 votes

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AnomanderFeb 24, 20182 votes

I think that people who one trick risk getting put in roles they are not familiar with. I also don't care what the top 20k players have to deal with as they are less then a .001% of the community.

Elitism is a serious problem on these boards......I am a filthy silver casual OMG better bash me......

So what if I am a silver. The majority of players are low silver and bronze. Shit even as a silver 1 I am in the top 30% of players. Whats even better is I can play EVERY ROLE and still be in the top 30%. Considering the fact I am a casual player I am quite happy with my rankings.

If you want to bash me for that go ahead.

AnghatinearoFeb 24, 20181 votes

its not a bashing. It's being that the competitive mode should suit the competitive gameplay by fairly matching games in the higher tiers. Keep it in gold and below fine, but at least diamond+ games shouldn't have some dumb shit ruining game quality.

Kai GuyFeb 24, 20182 votes

Any one elo shameing should be ignored, take any merit in what they say if there is any but rank shame is BS because the way the game plays is not the same across elos. Its a mistake to pretend like it does. What's frustrating in bronze or silver, may not apply to say diamond. That frustration exists, why dismiss it? Azir has been higher elo problems, many times when he does very badly in bronze. Does that mean bronze players should be dismissive of a D1 post bitching about Azir.

Now I anticipate the response, a D1 player can go, take that azir, smurf, and destroy. The point i want to make is can a Bronze 4 Player, Take that azir, go to D1 and destroy?

Treating lower elo issues and frustrations like air because it does not apply to you is a mistake, an easy one to make. Hell I'm guilty of it, and I'm a doofus who started this game near the bottom of bronze and took years to make it to plat mmr. It took spectating hommies, and seeing the way they play the game and how matches break down to change my view. A lot of advice I gave, just did not apply to them. Just play Xerath (and my bro dude is bad at skill shots, so he cant abuse players being bad at dodgeing skillshots.) Pick some one with Strong Engage that's doing well in -insert meta X- gets late, delayed, or non existent follow up. ADC are in a good spot, Play champion Y. Support... autos waves, pushes, takes cs. buddys bad at CSing on top of that, cant LH well.... And then for no fucking reason what so ever the enemy team groups at 8 min and the game becomes a push mid slugfest clusterfuck and ends at 17min (<- that game in season 6).

dunder killFeb 24, 20182 votes

Autofill isn't an option with the role selection system. You absolutely need it. Nobody "wanted" autofill, but it's 100% necessary as long as disproportionate amounts of people queue for different roles (spoiler: always). Not an option.

Or we can go back to pick order if you don't want autofill? (Bonus spoiler: you get off role WAAAYYYYY more often with pick order)

Tl;dr stop being a baby. Getting your preferred roles 95% of the time is so much better than the alternative

KennysDreamGirlFeb 24, 20181 votes

it doesnt matter how many times i or someone else gets it. the point is it shouldn't be a thing at all especially in ranked games for that one time that someon feeds in a role riots forces you to play. you cant even dodge if youre autofilled too which is stupid

Kai GuyFeb 24, 20181 votes

Problem. 4 mid only players got qued to be on same team. Frustrating for all and a negative impact on the game. Solution. Role selection.

Problem. Role Selection still disproportionately favors some roles because player favoritism, creating bad wait times. (que times killed teambuilder, and team builder was glorious! But even I gave up on it once it started taking 15min+) Solution. Balance this out by making all players have to fill roles

Note, Previously it was potentially every game you might fill, and toxic MID OR FEED players existed and where just as negative as a bad teammate who got filled to a bad role.

The current system is an improvement on pick order or Call order systems. Auto fill can be made to be a better system then it currently exists. I'm happy to make post detailing many ways this can be done. But if you don't address the issues it was made to solve your not contributing anything besides noise.

KennysDreamGirlFeb 24, 20181 votes

i never said go back to pick order. thats why we have draft. autofill shouldn't be a thing at all or atleast not in ranked games where it matters

dunder killFeb 24, 20181 votes

What part of it's not an option didn't you get exactly?

IT'S. NOT. AN. OPTION.

it's not up for debate. It is 100% completely necessary. It's not "hurr durr 5 minute longer queues". It's "matching completely stops functioning". Sorry, not sitting in a 2 hour queue because someone is a baby that can't support or top once in twenty games.

It's an extremely basic concept calling bottlenecking. Each role is a different station in a production line. Each station has to produce a unit for a game to pop out the door. If one station's production is slower than the rest, the other stations begin to back up further and further and further AND FURTHER. Autofill is necessary to equalize the production rates. Without it, the system back up until we have queues literally hours long.

So here are your options:

A) We keep role selection and deal with autofill that isn't even that bad to begin with

B) We go back to pick order and you get off roles way more frequently anyway.

Please note 2 hour queues are not an option.

ModCaliCoastReplayFeb 24, 20181 votes

Do you want to wait five to ten minutes to match a game? Sure, make an option to turn it off - in a no autofill queue, accompanied by "this setting may cause long delays". Or play blind pick.

I feel like at least part of draft is for people who are making a serious commitment to play League at a ranked level. Draft is what the pros play for a reason.

And I don't mind autofill because anyone who takes the game seriously knows that you eventually have to learn at least the basics of every role, even if you can't do it well. Those of you who don't like it, fine - but let those of us who have less free time and benefit from quicker match timers do our thing too.

KennysDreamGirlFeb 24, 20181 votes

you dont have to be forced into a role you dont wanna play to know about it

LeylaniaFeb 24, 20181 votes

All the people defending autofill always use "shorter queue times" as an argument for it while completly ignoring how many people dodge the lobby because they did not get one of their chosen roles. At this point I expect atleast 2-3 dodged lobbies everytime I queue up (sometimes waiting even up to 30 minutes before getting into a game) and it just sucks. Not even mentioning how many people start the game frustrated and tilt super fast because they have to play a unfamiliar role.

I know that people love to downvote anti-autofill posts on these boards but the system is definitly not as super duper great as some of the people here love to claim.

KennysDreamGirlFeb 24, 20182 votes

i would much rather wait an extra 5-10 minutes to get into a game then get into one knowing ill lose (while not being able to dodge otherwise i still lose lp) because 2 other people dont know how to play the role riot forced them into.

ModCaliCoastReplayFeb 24, 20181 votes

I'm fine with a no-autofill option. But don't just remove it from the game. Some of us out here really prefer shorter match timers...

Maybe Riot should give stats at playtime about what roles are underfilled?

KennysDreamGirlFeb 24, 20181 votes

i dont think it should be in ranked at all