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The Problem that is Autofill

SignMeUpGriff··5 votes·1,024 views

So I love league of legends. There is no getting rid of that. What I love even more then normal league is competitive league. So that's pretty much all I play now but, here lies the problem. Ever since the Auto fill was implemented. I cannot begin to put a number to the amount of games I have lost because people are in their off role. Myself included, most people can only play 1-3 roles that are up to the standards set by their division. I understand some people like Auto fill and good for them. Personally I would rather take a 20 minute queue time and have the best shot at winning the game then a 5 minute queue time and end up with a 30 minute loss. Sure if I get auto filled I can dodge the game but I don't feel that dodging should even be a viable strait in a team based game such as league. So I put my solution to all of you. Allow players to select and option for Auto fill because I am certain I would select higher quality games then faster queue times.

18 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

so what about the old system back prior to season 6.. .where we went by pick order and the last two picks were always forced to fill ?

how was that better ? people still stuck playing a role they didnt want or an off role

Dreadlocks3 votes

There was nothing wrong with picking your 2 roles in the past before autofill existed. The reason autofill is even a thing right now is because riot is determined to keep their "dynamic q"

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

there was no picking of two roles before season 6 it was pick order

the 1st pick got the role they wanted. 2nd pick got to choose from whats left same as 3rd pick by the time you got to last pick you were forced to FILL whatever role was left

90% of the time it was support people bitched and cried over that being forced into a role they dont want or dont play ect so riot gave use dynamic queue where you get to select two roles... then queue times were long ... people bitched about that...

so riot brings in auto fill to help out with long queue times

what doe people do ?

BITCH ABOUT THAT

see a pattern here? yea its no matter what riot does PEOPLE ARE GONNA BITCH

if you dont liek it dont play ... you arent forced to play league

its free... deal with it.. accept it and play or move along

Dreadlocks3 votes

Exactly season 6 had Dynamic Q and you could pick your 2 roles, Instead of just removing Dynamic Q all together and implementing solo Q back with picking your 2 roles, there would be no need to have auto fill. Instead they moved Dynamic Q into "flex q" and brought back solo Q. So now you have 2 ranked ladders meaning the pool of players is being divided, hence the "need" for autofill.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

there would still be a need for auto fill. if 100 people queue up to play they aren't all gonna divide evenly over all 5 roles

most will pick mid/jungle then top then adc then support

support would have the least amount of people to queue up for it..

therefore to make a game happen... you need 10 players so 5 per team 1 per role ...

if of that 100 players lets say 33 queued for mid, 27 for jungle 25 for top 10 for adc and 5 for support

well then you can legit only make 2 games out of that cuz there are only enough supports for two games so lets say riot does that so now we have 29 mid players left, 23 junglers, 21 tops ,6 adcs and 1 support in order to match the next game someone in those other roles are gonna have to be filled as support cuz there isn't enough support players queued to make the next game and with out autofill those players would sit in queue waiting for a game to be matched , basically waiting for another player to queue up at support and the problem exist til there are enough players in each role to match games

now in that same 100 players example let say you get 20 top, 20 jungle 20 mids , 20 adcs ,and 20 supports you get 10 games with no wait due to the #s in each role queued up is even. the problem lies when its not an enough players for a certain role are queued at that time which would led to longer queue times waiting for games.

therefore auto fill is needed

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

by the way you aren't reading my statements I said PRIOR TO SEASON 6

before dynamic queue... there was pick order ... you didn't get to select roles you were left to what order you were put into champ select with the 1st pick getting what they want and so on... til the last pick is left with whatever role is left over... therefore being forced to fill a role ( aka autofill )

Dreadlocks3 votes

I understand what it was like BEFORE season 6 because i played PRIOR to season 6, but i'm talking about WHY autofill even existst. And the REASON autofill exists is because we have TWO ladder rankings.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

that has nothing to do with autofill

the two different ladder rankings ( solo/duo and flex) so no i would have to disagree with this ...

Dreadlocks3 votes

How do you not understand this? if you have 100 players and all 100 players played solo q, you would have 100 players to divide into each of the 5 roles, now if you have 100 players in 2 different ques flex and solo, you have 50 in each que. So to make queue time faster, you create "autofill" to find the players that you lack...

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

IT DONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ...

WHEN YOU PLAY DRAFT PICK NORMAL GAMES AUTOFILL STILL EXIST AND THERE ISNT TWO SEPARATE LADDERS

Dreadlocks3 votes

THERE ISNT TWO SEPARATE LADDERS

Ranked Solo Q? Flex Q? 1...2? yeah TWO.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

now you take things out of context...

there is no two separate ladders when you play DRAFT MODE NORMAL GAMES

and auto fill exist there

it has nothing to do with the separate ladders systems that is not why autofill exist

Dreadlocks3 votes

there is no two separate ladders

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

in normal draft mode there is 1 ladder ...

autofill exist in normal draft mode does it not?

so to say the reason autofill exist cuz of the separate rank queues is stupid and wrong

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

by the way.. downvoting makes no difference. it dont make your points any better or factual .

Handy Sandy 1 votes

Autofill isn't even that bad. It's basically support and even that isn't too hard to do.

DrCyanide1 votes

Allow players to select and option for Auto fill because I am certain I would select higher quality games then faster queue times.

Allowing players the option to select Fill is why we have Autofill.

When the new champion select rolled out, a fair amount of people said "That's cool! I Fill in most queues, I'll Fill in this too!" Except Fill wasn't the same. In Blind Pick you've got ~37% chance that Fill will be Support, and the remaining ~63% you get something else. In the new Champion Select Fill = Support 90% of the time. That was too much, so some people stopped putting Fill. Now the Fill people got support 95% of the time, which was too much for them so they bailed.

What's this got to do with Auto Fill? The same thing will happen if you allow a "Turn AutoFill Off" option. You'd be forcing those with Auto Fill turned On to play roles they don't want to more often, resulting in fewer people with Auto Fill turned On, resulting in the same problem.

The only way that this could maybe work is if you had it so that selecting "No Autofill" would only match you with players who also said "No Autofill". Now, if you had to guess, how many Support Mains would sign up for "No Autofill"? Your queue time would be hours, not minutes. Are you really prepared for that?

Karhtel1 votes

People are like "id wait 20 minutes to not get autofilled" i call bs on that. People always complain about something. If you can't play support every now and then In ranked you shouldnt be playing league

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