You're losing lane 3 minutes in? Oh ask your lvl1/2 jg to abort everything else and save you!
You're feeding? It's the jg's fault you fed.
You're pushing your creep waves to the tower nonstop then dying? Oh it's the jg's fault he didn't tower dive.
2/3 or 3/3 lanes are just completely losing? Oh it's the jg's he supposed to not grab buffs, not kill creeps, and not counter jg. He's just supposed to run between the entire team nonstop.
PiVoRx4 votesActually this logic carries up to Diamond as well.
Requiemsfire3 votesI say bring me cake, Jungle bring me cake.
Seenan3 votesIt's kinda the same if you're mid. You don't roam with your opponent or 'follow' him? They yell at you even though you called mia about 5 times. You don't do as much damage as the Katarina? Yell. You can still kill the Katarina anyway? Yell. You pretty much nearly kill everyone on their team? Silence.
Nami in Bush3 votesYou're Bronze 4
Phelas4 votes[zombie-brand-clap]
And thats why he gave us first hand information about bronze logic.
Nami in Bush3 votes[zombie-brand-clap]
And thats why he gave us first hand information about bronze logic.
If he was a better jungler he wouldn't be Bronze 4. His teammates are right.
TheSingularity2 votesEdit: bronze through gold logic.
Stick it up their ass. You wanna feed the graves? Then I'm gonna power farm untill I'm fat enough to 1v1 him.
Team cried and raged at me for 40 minutes while I farmed away with my single death while they kept feeding. I come back full build sejuani against 4 ad and an ap support and 1V5 with a quadra, the bard got away....... tunnel stunned me
They didn't open their gobs for the rest of the game
Edit: Sigh if ur gonna downvote at least have the balls to opose my point of view
Ireliavence2 votes[slayer-jinx-catface]
downvoted.
TheSingularity2 votesIdm bae. Have an upvote Mind explainin why? Would appreciate another perspective/opinion [zombie-nunu-hearts]
Poske2 votesI assume people dont like bragging
Also
Graves jungle has one of the strongest lategames you should probably try to have more influence early game also tunnel "stunned you"
TheSingularity1 votesOne of yes. Stronger than sejuani's no. If I was say zac or naut then yes, without a doubt I'd have to assert my influence early on as I'd drop off later on big time. But with the armour passive and scaling hp dmg. It was only a matter of time.
The 2nd Horseman3 votesWell the issues with that play style is that firstly it's something Riot regretted and got rid of twice, also instead of putting all your eggs in one basket you could've helped the other two lanes and made your team fighting pretty baller. You're right about abandoning top lane but playing cocoon means your gonna have to hope you out scale 3 fully supported lanes and an enemy jungler with kill participation gold and likely towers.
TheSingularity1 votesGuess it was mah bad for a huge lack of context on the situation. Twas a graves jg who'd gotten kills from every lane within 8min. Ended up with 30+kills Farming away was all any tank jungler could've done (or was there something else?) As otherwise I woulda fed mah but off
Ended up with 6 tank items and no boots. Graves flamed so hard upon his first death
DraygenBiscuit1 votesIf someone isn't competent enough too at least stay under their turrent for a gank, just let them be. I guess you should try and help ur other lanes and hope you can carry the poor guy later. If you have to just mute him... Honestly once someone gets like that they never say anything productive anyway.
Xonra1 votesIf someone isn't competent enough too at least stay under their turrent for a gank, just let them be. I guess you should try and help ur other lanes and hope you can carry the poor guy later. If you have to just mute him... Honestly once someone gets like that they never say anything productive anyway.
Have you not played LoL this season? Sitting under turret doesn't mean you are safe. This is the most bassackward logic to just "sit under turret". If the jungler can't be bothered to help a laner when they NEED help AND ask for it, then they have no business jungling. It is as bad as the people who support, but really just build ap and no sightstone. If you aren't gonna support, then don't support. If you aren't gonna gank, then don't jungle.
You are just putting your team further on tilt, and being a liability while the enemy just runs while ganking and all the jungler can say is "it isn't my job to win your lane". It is actually. Jungler has THE most impact on a game and a lane outside of the laner themselves, and when they feel too entitled and don't think they need to gank, they might as well go afk.
DraygenBiscuit1 votesYou Misunderstood me. I wasn't speaking of safety, I was referring to the people who push their lane all the way to the enemy turret and constantly ping for assistance, then when they die they blame the jungler for not turret diving the enemy. I understand your points and agree with you completely, but you and I are talking about two completely different scenarios, and 2 completely different types of laners. By the way, there are ways to convay your opinion without being an asshole about it, just sayin.
Schàdenfreude1 voteslol if you don't wanna hear those things get better and get outta bronze scrub
notice me Sin pi2 votessomeone has to stay in bronze in order to allow silver and above to exist tho
Schàdenfreude1 votesLOL, good point
KoggyStyle1 votesi gt down voted for saying that.... in diffrent words.
Great Muta1 votesAs a jungle main, I've gotten more reports off of things that happened when jungling than anything else. I'm the top target anytime a lane fails and I flip the fuck out when I try to help people by ganking and they leave me hanging.
IWrath2 votes[{quoted}](name=Great Muta,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aaoREGPW,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-17T01:39:35.857+0000)
As a jungle main, I've gotten more reports off of things that happened when jungling than anything else. I'm the top target anytime a lane fails and I flip the fuck out when I try to help people by ganking and they leave me hanging.
Gotta love when bot pings like 4 times straight for help, you show up, and they do nothing. It's even better when you're playing with blitz, thresh, morg, lux, etc. Like you want help? do something to make me wanna help you lol. I run down here, get doubled ult'd, and yall sit back and watch.
TequilaZombie1 votesIt's one of my biggest reasons to avoid ganking bot lane whenever I'm not 100% I can handle both the Support and the ADC on my own.
I've died too many times because my team just decided to sit back and farm when I go in.
Beldair2 votesI have to jump into this as a Support main.....I always jump in with jungler...
But there is times when I ping for a gank, he comes down to river bush.... So I jump the adc and support but my adc and jungler just watch as they whittle me down to death, and then the jungler jumps in.
TequilaZombie1 votesI feel your pain man. Idk why, but ganks on bot lane tend to go sideways way more often than ganks on mid or top.
Beldair1 votesMy theory is the numbers...
Both top and mid are solo lanes, so the jungler only has to rely on that 1 person to go in when he ganks.
But bot lane has 2 ppl, an adc and support, that the jungler relies on when ganking. So if the support goes in but the adc doesn't, it can be disastrous. The same can be said in reverse, if adc goes in but support doesn't when bungler ganks, death may occur to both allies.
As well if the jungler just sits in bush and watches his bot lane allies die.
IWrath1 votesIt's one of my biggest reasons to avoid ganking bot lane whenever I'm not 100% I can handle both the Support and the ADC on my own.
I've died too many times because my team just decided to sit back and farm when I go in.
I was playing Shaco for once and Riven was getting completely destroyed until I gave her two free kills very early. My first gank I went blue red top.
Meanwhile Lux is feeding vladimir, and bot just can't do anything at all. So before bot is to feed I go in. I'm shaco, I end up going in first, surviving both Sona and Lucians ult, after I leave with about 110hp bot is like "Why the fuck didn't you help us!!!"
Maybe it's because I pinged OMW like 4 times and when I go in your still sitting in the back and thresh won't even run up to land a hook. His first reaction is to throw a lantern down so I can go back to the tower from the middle of bot lane.
TFBaam2 voteswow i guess im not the only person that this happens to.
i get tilted after dying for a gank, especially if we dont get anything
so i play 
or 
, power farm for 5 items and boots then push lanes, and then go take baron
EbonyBladeJ881 votesGotta love when bot pings like 4 times straight for help, you show up, and they do nothing. It's even better when you're playing with blitz, thresh, morg, lux, etc. Like you want help? do something to make me wanna help you lol. I run down here, get doubled ult'd, and yall sit back and watch.
^^^^ This. There's more times than I can count when I gank (Doesn't matter what lane) even if I successfully get my chosen JG's combo off successfully, and my team-mate stares at me like I'm an exhibit at a freaking zoo.
Xonra1 votes^^^^ This. There's more times than I can count when I gank (Doesn't matter what lane) even if I successfully get my chosen JG's combo off successfully, and my team-mate stares at me like I'm an exhibit at a freaking zoo.
Equal amount of times my jungler comes to "gank" and does the exact same thing basically. Or runs half up the lane, then just gives up and leaves and never comes back.
Junglers are just as bad about this even when they are the one who came to your lane, and will sit and watch.
EbonyBladeJ881 votesEqual amount of times my jungler comes to "gank" and does the exact same thing basically. Or runs half up the lane, then just gives up and leaves and never comes back.
Junglers are just as bad about this even when they are the one who came to your lane, and will sit and watch.
I never said I wasn't guilty of the same thing. I'm sure many people I've played with can say it, and I won't deny it in the least.
Xonra1 votesGotta love when bot pings like 4 times straight for help, you show up, and they do nothing. It's even better when you're playing with blitz, thresh, morg, lux, etc. Like you want help? do something to make me wanna help you lol. I run down here, get doubled ult'd, and yall sit back and watch.
The thing is, usually when I ping for help, I just see the jungler suddenly blindly charge in like 4 minutes AFTER the fact.
Didn't look at our mana Didn't look at our health Didn't look at our positioning Didn't check where wards are Didn't see if we even had ult up Didn't ask about summoner spells
Just dive in right in the middle of a minion wave, then start pinging then two half health members with no mana and wonder why they didn't help. This happens about 50% of the time. The jungler just blindly runs in at 2 people and ignores the state of the two teammates, then flails and wonders why they didn't blindly just walk into death.
Volcanuz1 votesJust mute anyone who crys for a gank when it wasn't viable. If you engage them they are more likely to give up and make you tilt. Just focus on your job and catch people out, that is your job. Kill dragon, help push lanes when you can or if the lane wants too, and gank people who over extend, that is what jungle is meant to do.
Xonra1 votesJust mute anyone who crys for a gank when it wasn't viable. If you engage them they are more likely to give up and make you tilt. Just focus on your job and catch people out, that is your job. Kill dragon, help push lanes when you can or if the lane wants too, and gank people who over extend, that is what jungle is meant to do.
Then you see the same jungler crying for help in their jungle when that same person doesn't come help them.
It goes both ways, but I'm not sure what is worse, the "poor me" support threads or the "poor me" jungler threads. Both are clearly perfect, do all the work, and are abused by everyone.
Volcanuz1 votesI hardly ever in my entire thousands of hours have ever seen a jungler cry about how he/she needs help in the jungle. The only time i seen it was my self against a freaking awesome Nidalee jungler who dominated my jungle and ganked my team hard yet they didnt want to ward around the jungle.
I mean the jungle is a gateway really, so if people aren't warding properly then i can see why a jungle would get upset, but i hardly have ever seen in in the seven years i have played this game.
So your argument is kind of silly really.
My comment still is valid. Mute people who are being problems, and dont engage in convo with them. You seem the kind of person who engages with the toxic chat so im going to take my own advice and mute you by not even reading your next reply.
Papa Slothy1 votesbut...but i'm the mid laner
I DESERVE ALL THE GANKS
wokedaddy1 votesFor real, jungle is the only role that will be raged at by the guy who went 0/7.
Bhagswag1 votesForgetting the support.
Xonra1 votes[{quoted}](name=IP IE A C IE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aaoREGPW,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-08-17T02:28:34.633+0000)
For real, jungle is the only role that will be raged at by the guy who went 0/7.
And jungler was the main role who could have stopped the bleeding and maybe kept it at 0/3 or maybe made it 1/3/2 or something.
While the enemy laner is fed, as is the enemy jungler who DID gank.
Volcanuz1 votesReminded me of a game i had as Sej, level 2 and killing blue, mid pinging like mad for assistance, 4 seconds later he dies "Sej if you came we could of killed him!" I hold ALT then press on my health, 23%, press on mana, 13%. Yeah i could of helped you... Helped you give your mid two kills!
This is why when i play with my friend and he jungles i tell him to mute the team and ill give him instructions if needed... He doesn't need the abuse from the team and tilt him self.
Another thing i hate from bronze players... you come and gank, you get the kill, then they yell at you for "taking the kill and not giving it to me" like seriously.. this isnt a pro game where you do that shit.
NovaCain1 votesHa this shit pisses me off so much. This is why I dislike playing jungle even though its also my favorite lane, I try to just instantly mute people as soon as they do that crap. I had one yesterday who 5 minutes in started screaming "FKING HELP TOP I NEED FKING HELP!!!" (Literally what he said) and then I went and ganked and he farmed minions and I died.
Xonra1 votesYou're losing lane 3 minutes in? Oh ask your lvl1/2 jg to abort everything else and save you!
You're feeding? It's the jg's fault you fed.
You're pushing your creep waves to the tower nonstop then dying? Oh it's the jg's fault he didn't tower dive.
2/3 or 3/3 lanes are just completely losing? Oh it's the jg's he supposed to not grab buffs, not kill creeps, and not counter jg. He's just supposed to run between the entire team nonstop.
You're enemy is pushing up at level 2-3. Guess the jungle better get them wolves instead
You're getting dove and camped? Naw, jungler doesn't need to help. Better camp my duo or only counter jungle instead of taking my own camps, and putting myself and laners behind.
You're pushing your lane cause...it's what your champ does? I mean, who would think you might get ganked. Better not even pretend counter ganking is a thing. Or...I dunno, put pressure on another lane. Naw, better just keep farming till I'm level 8 in the jungle.
Stop pretending the jungler is all innocent and perfect. More times than not, you might miss 1 camp for 30 seconds, but instead you could counter gank, gank in general, gank the other side of the map when the enemy ganks. Then you can take the enemy camps, take objectives, then you will have all the time you want to afk farm like you'd prefer to do.
9 times out of 10 I see enemy ganking top. jungler farming wraiths. Enemy coming mid. Jungler taking scuttle crab. Enemy jungler walks over a ward close to the jungler. Does he come help? Naw, that red buff on the other side of the map is cleeeaaaarly more important than the champion.
You want to farm and not gank? Then don't play jungle. You are the MOST influential member of a team. Don't pretend like it is a privilege to help. You are just as much a part of the team.
VvVVvV1 votesI understand your comments but you cant just classify that way of thinking as all in bronze.
There are 2 sides to every story. And we have all seen it before both ways.
There are times when shyt is absolutely the junglers fault IE: taking Red or Blue buff or other near camp while u are mid defending tower 1v3....or when they come gank with less than half health and try to dive the enemy and get blown up.
But then there are also times when its not junglers fault. IE: 3 minutes into the game u are pinging for a gank and have like 30 health becuase you tried to fight level 1 or 2. I mean damn give the jungle time to farm.
But i have seen enough streams and games to know this is not just a Bronze thing........peopel complain both ways on all levels.
Mylon Requiem1 votesPlatinum Logic: JNG only has to gank out of convenience and not focus the lanes that actually make sense to gank.
; Bot is 
[Also, typical selfish Platinum composition right there folks.]
jaymc11301 votesIf you are level 1-2 as the JG 3 minutes into the game you don't know how to JG and should never play the role...
The standard time for first ganks is 3:30 in solo lanes because the jungler has a level advantage over solo lanes until that point. If he shows at 3:30 everyone should be level 3 (solo laners and junglers) and this makes the chances of securing a kill very high.
If 3/3 lanes lose in a game its 100% the junglers fault, every time. Period. Your one job as a jungler is to watch the map, pay attention to whats happening, and show up where you are needed most when you are needed there the most. This should ALWAYS result in at least ONE lane winning so that you have an advantage some where on the map and can start to think about how to gain advantages else where.
If you are going to complain about something on the boards, please make your complaints legitimate. The silly nonsense here only reinforces poor fundamentals of lower level players. Learn to jungle before you make a complaint of this nature.
JafarThePanda1 votesas a jungle main this is my life.