As an Urgot main. Don't nerf him.

King Lego·Oct 22, 2018·7 votes·2,581 views

Just because he's picked on pro plays doesn't mean he's op. Pro plays have voice chat communication (while we don't unless premades) which result it excellent teamwork, and Urgot is often excellent in teamwork since his ulti can turn the tide of a team fight and his allies can benefit from it real quick.

Not to mention picking those who counter Urgot hard will mess him up real bad.

Don't you dare nerf him riot. Since his rework, barely a buff and now the community is all going "omg so op! SO unbalanced! Nerf!" [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Edit: No matter how much downvotes this gets, I don't think any of you even main Urgot or even know how he works.

30 Comments

RexxieeOct 22, 20185 votes

Hes literally first pick/ban in every game in worlds because he cannot lose a lane while never being weak at any stage of the game, only top laner that can match him is aatrox (whos also ridic broken).

"Totally not overpowered guys DONT NERF MY MAIN PLS"

King LegoOct 22, 20182 votes

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Hes literally first pick/ban in every game in worlds because he cannot lose a lane while never being weak at any stage of the game, only top laner that can match him is aatrox (whos also ridic broken).

"Totally not overpowered guys DONT NERF MY MAIN PLS"

No don't nerf my main because I KNOW how he's played and how to play against him and what his weaknesses are. Bad team work can make his ulti useless (like ulti flash and get a fear on enemy, but if ally don't follow you are screwed), and make him lane vs a Teemo, Jax, Jayce, Gnar, even Tryndamere, he will have a bad time. And the possible worst one, Morde.

I'm not saying "dont nerf Urgot" because he's my main. I'm saying "dont nerf Urgot" because I KNOW what makes him strong and weak.

Full BrainOct 22, 20181 votes

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Hes literally first pick/ban in every game in worlds because he cannot lose a lane while never being weak at any stage of the game, only top laner that can match him is aatrox (whos also ridic broken).

"Totally not overpowered guys DONT NERF MY MAIN PLS"

This isn't true at all. They just don't want the characters who counter him on their team because they are mostly trash. Better to ban him and pick one of the broken characters like Ornn, Shen, or Sion top that offer a lot to your team. A team already tried doing this by the way but not to Urgot they didn't ban Heimerdinger and tried running garbo Morde into him because it counters his laning phase and guess what having a trash character on your team instead of an adc is a bad idea.

Rock MDOct 22, 20184 votes

barely a buff

He's gotten buffs in like half a dozen patches since his rework and at least half of those are big changes.

King LegoOct 22, 20182 votes

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He's gotten like buffs in like half a dozen patches since his rework and at least half of those are big changes.

The only "buff" I know of is how he's allowed to move while grinding his enemy to death from his R. I don't know (or better yet even, remember) what other buff he got from the past year.

ChalzeOct 22, 20182 votes

Tell me which matchup/situation he doesn't at least have an OK time with

DuskDaUmbreonOct 22, 20183 votes

Probably Kayle and a few other champions who just...beat him.

Looking at LeagueofGraphs, we see Mordekaiser has 5.5% higher Winrate against Urgot. Yorick, Kled, Heimer, Wukong, Jax, Sion, Viktor. All experience at least a 1.5% higher winrate than their norm against him. Sion has a 4% higher, Wukong and Viktor have a 3% higher. Kled has 2.5% higher.

However, few of his counters are actually in the meta. Sion and Viktor are all that appear in proplay, and Jax is added to that in soloQ.

Everyone that beats him well does so rather logically. Urgot is going to have a hell of a time killing Morde through his healing and shield, while Morde's ult rips through his health (because Urgot normally stacks a lot of health, but not a lot of resistances), his W heals minions to make it take even longer for Urgot to attack him if he doesn't land Q, and his overall DPS is just going to be a hell of a lot higher. Jax beats Urgot because he presses E and laughs at Urgot's damage. Kled beats Urgot due to repositioning with E and %hp damage with W, while being a colossal pain in the ass to kill even with Urgot's ult, because Kled cannot be killed by a single attack if he's on Skaarl, meaning even if Kled's at 2% health, as long as he's on Skaarl the execution will just dismount him. Yorick again has %hp damage (although not as much as Kled and Morde) and has minions that make Urgot's W almost impossible to hit with if he doesn't have Q. Heimer does normal Heimer top things, but, again, summons that make landing Q absolutely vital to actually hit with W, and he gets Zhonya's as a core item anyways.

King LegoOct 22, 20181 votes

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Tell me which matchup/situation he doesn't at least have an OK time with

Teemo, Jax, Darius, Jayce, Gnar, Jayce (this one is 50/50), Illaoi (also 50/50). Should I go on? The possible worst one by far would be Morde.

BlinkZZ182Oct 22, 20182 votes

Why is that i don't see Yorick in worlds to counter Urgot? I cant even see him in ranked. But Riot nerfed Yorick

King LegoOct 22, 20181 votes

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Why is that i don't see in worlds to counter Urgot? I cant even see him in ranked. But Riot nerfed Yorick

To top it off, it's basically hell for Urgot vs Yorick. But I think that's a 50/50. I don't know really. I don't see Yorick so I can't be sure.

GadwarOct 22, 20181 votes

As a former yorick main it's a skill match up or it was before the nerfs, not sure now.

King LegoOct 22, 20181 votes

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As a former yorick main it's a skill match up or it was before the nerfs, not sure now.

Why was Yorick treated so unfairly anyway?!? The entire season I only saw him twice. Even season 7 I saw him like twice tops. Does he have a toxic kit or something?

RagnaveilOct 22, 20181 votes

Its toxic in low elo. Thats the only reason why they've been nerfing him lmao.

King LegoOct 22, 20181 votes

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Its toxic in low elo. Thats the only reason why they've been nerfing him lmao.

"Low elo" 1- Sure. Most of the complaint was from "high elo". 2- Riot never does changes for bronze-gold 3- The question is directed to an ex-Yorick main. Somebody who should know a little more than the both of us about Yorick. So please...elo off from here.

RagnaveilOct 22, 20181 votes

Uh....what? Idk how he's a problem in high elo when he's rarely being picked, and his winrate is stable. Im just pointing out the fact why he isn't being treated fairly.

King LegoOct 22, 20181 votes

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Uh....what? Idk how he's a problem in high elo when he's rarely being picked, and his winrate is stable. Im just pointing out the fact why he isn't being treated fairly.

Yorick being gutted die to low elo? Yeah no. I don't think that's even true because 1- riot doesn't balance for low elo. 2- If they did I would have seen Yorick in matches at a decent rate. But since season 4 till now I've rarely RARELY saw him.

GadwarOct 23, 20181 votes

Well, you could use his ghouls to kill of anything that was kiting you if well executed but not always, mostly when people didn't respect my ghouls. I myself used yorick to get out of silver because people wouldn't stop dueling me with my ghouls up or they would let me split all the time. People would engage on me with ult up and let me sustain through out the fight. That's pretty much it. He isnt so different than nasus or udyr in terms of splitpushing, it's just that ranged champions could be punished easier i think. Now i stick to nasus if i need splitpusher or udyr is another pick I would recommend. Just my opinion on yorick and I think the nerfs are overkill.

King LegoOct 23, 20181 votes

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Well, you could use his ghouls to kill of anything that was kiting you if well executed but not always, mostly when people didn't respect my ghouls. I myself used yorick to get out of silver because people wouldn't stop dueling me with my ghouls up or they would let me split all the time. People would engage on me with ult up and let me sustain through out the fight. That's pretty much it. He isnt so different than nasus or udyr in terms of splitpushing, it's just that ranged champions could be punished easier i think. Now i stick to nasus if i need splitpusher or udyr is another pick I would recommend. Just my opinion on yorick and I think the nerfs are overkill.

So he was unfairly gutted due to how his ghouls can be used to make kiting harder on the enemy? I'm guessing it's the ADC mains' fault and their big naggy nag nag, since the class is kiting itself... No way that's the only reason on why Yorick was gutted to the ground.

GadwarOct 24, 20181 votes

Well according to their patch notes it's to make it fair for low elo cuz people ignored ghouls while fighting yorick, feels bad man since I purchased arc light yorick on him xD. In addition I think they gutted him so he doesn't see play on the world's, perhaps they dislike the way he is played and it isn't the way riot wants teams to play on LCS.(splitpush) On higher elo people wanted buffs for yorick because he wasnt really that opressive and i believe it was above gold, since people knew how to play against him. Oh well, too bad, they did it the other way around.

King LegoOct 24, 20181 votes

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Well according to their patch notes it's to make it fair for low elo cuz people ignored ghouls while fighting yorick, feels bad man since I purchased arc light yorick on him xD. In addition I think they gutted him so he doesn't see play on the world's, perhaps they dislike the way he is played and it isn't the way riot wants teams to play on LCS.(splitpush) On higher elo people wanted buffs for yorick because he wasnt really that opressive and i believe it was above gold, since people knew how to play against him. Oh well, too bad, they did it the other way around.

Riot's playing favoritism with LCS and stuff. This game changed a lot to me when i got to know it even more now to an extent that i should just focus on playing Fortnite: Save the Worl, or Skyrim.

If Riot is that disgusting with such cheap actions, then i don't think there is anymore reason to play the game as much as i did before.

CHEWYARMSOct 22, 20181 votes

Great question,

You see riot simply hates yorick.

He saw 2 games in LCS where is was picked soley as a counter to GP. His literal best match up.

Game 1 lasted for 50 minutes and ended with yorick backdooring.

Game 2 he was completely shutdown by the JG early. And yoricks kit doesn't function well when behind so he was useless.

2 weeks later they destroyed his early game.

So now even in his winning matchups he still loses lane in high elo till he gets items and that makes him unpickable.

Rock MDOct 22, 20181 votes

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Great question,

You see riot simply hates yorick.

He saw 2 games in LCS where is was picked soley as a counter to GP. His literal best match up.

Game 1 lasted for 50 minutes and ended with yorick backdooring.

Game 2 he was completely shutdown by the JG early. And yoricks kit doesn't function well when behind so he was useless.

2 weeks later they destroyed his early game.

So now even in his winning matchups he still loses lane in high elo till he gets items and that makes him unpickable.

Yorick was nerfed because low elo players can't handle splitpushes. He had a 53%+ winrate in Bronze-Gold while sporting a 47-49% in Diamond.

CauseSCIENCEOct 22, 20181 votes

Urgot has virtually no role in teamfights and a terrible late-game, cause most everyone outscales him.

King LegoOct 22, 20181 votes

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Urgot has virtually no role in teamfights and a terrible late-game, cause most everyone outscales him.

Urgot's ulti is what makes him useful in team fights. Whether if early, mid or even late game. Although his late game where be should be having a great ton of HP, which usually equals to a decent shield from his W.

CauseSCIENCEOct 22, 20181 votes

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Urgot's ulti is what makes him useful in team fights. Whether if early, mid or even late game. Although his late game where be should be having a great ton of HP, which usually equals to a decent shield from his W.

I don't want him nerfed either. I'm just stating that just because he wins most lanes doesn't mean he's gonna be amazing during the entire game. I'm just saying most of his damage is single target and he can still get mowed down by the enemy's mage or adc.

King LegoOct 22, 20182 votes

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I don't want him nerfed either. I'm just stating that just because he wins most lanes doesn't mean he's gonna be amazing during the entire game. I'm just saying most of his damage is single target and he can still get mowed down by the enemy's mage or adc.

Yeah true. While he's team reliant to make his ulti useful and tankiness meaningful, pro plays is what meets his needs to the fullest, and the community now thinks he's "busted" or something. The community can be so amazing with band wagons sometimes. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

WilyumOct 23, 20181 votes

I think Urgot jg is fun but a decent Nerf would probably make him unviable in it.

King LegoOct 23, 20181 votes

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I think Urgot jg is fun but a decent Nerf would probably make him unviable in it.

The thing that makes Urgot strong is a good team communication and that's what pro players have and that makes Urgot to his full power that even i can't reach it even though i'm an Urgot main. Unless i go 5 premades on normals or ranked flex. But solo Q? Yeah no.

Poké MansNov 6, 20181 votes

I love urgot where he is, as an urgot main myself i get my ass handed to me in many matchups and reck people in other matchups, a game can be turned on how the matchup is played, saying he's op isn't fair if you dont know his kit or how to properly avoid a losing trade. Learn about the champion if you think he/she is broken and learn how to play around it instead of whining like a baby. You win some and you lose some, dont cry and complain if you aren't trying to better yourself in a matchup against an urgot if you simply dont know how to play around him. That's just negligence. [sg-ahri-3]

King LegoNov 6, 20181 votes

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I love urgot where he is, as an urgot main myself i get my ass handed to me in many matchups and reck people in other matchups, a game can be turned on how the matchup is played, saying he's op isn't fair if you dont know his kit or how to properly avoid a losing trade. Learn about the champion if you think he/she is broken and learn how to play around it instead of whining like a baby. You win some and you lose some, dont cry and complain if you aren't trying to better yourself in a matchup against an urgot if you simply dont know how to play around him. That's just negligence. [sg-ahri-3]

Given with your name, it may seem like a big deal of Bias. I can hardly imagine you're being taken seriously due to your username when the topic about Urgot is active.

Anyway, the big thing about Urgot is that he's not a 1v9 champion. Picking him will not mean auto-win unlike Irelia.