Has Volibear Seemed Out of Hand Lately?

ZombieOfun··15 votes·1,198 views

I really have only experienced this in a few games recently but it seems Voli has been tankier than normal. I mean REALLY tanky, to the point where he was kind of deciding team fights because of his big beef and damage output. It could just be that I saw a few particularly good Volibears recently, I am not entirely sure. What are your thoughts?

Thanks for reading, -ZombieOfun

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67chrome6 votes

Has Volibear Seemed Out of Hand Lately?

Not any more than any other tanky DPS champion. Volibear's base stats are nothing special and his only defense in his QWER is his HP regen passive, which is kind of "eh" compared to a wide range of defensive skills in the game.

Any Voli issues are more a result of tanky DPS itemization being pretty solid at the moment over anything else.

to the point where he was kind of deciding team fights because of his big beef and damage output

Volibear is a fighter, he's supposed to be able to decide fights and he's good at fighting. For the most part: fighters in LoL are pretty much carries that rely primarily on defense to survive long enough to kill things rather than relying primarily on speed or range to survive long enough to kill things. Or rather, juggernaut fighters are primarily defense: most fighters are more a mix of defense and speed. Regardless: If a Volibear gets ahead, it's pretty much the same issue as if a Katarina or Lucian get ahead. Runs in, kills all the things.

ZombieOfun1 votes

That very well may be the case! Thank you for the informative comment.

JavelinJoe1 votes

Very true, except the katerina will kill you before you even can flash lol.

Ozag the Mighty2 votes

I love seeing Kat ult cause I just run up and fling her

Omega T33mo3 votes

I was afraid to post this because it jsut gets downvoted

ZombieOfun1 votes

Admittedly I was somewhat afraid of it too but I figured if some folks saw it and had something objective and intriguing to say it was worth the "hate" from others that see it as complaining. Which, in this case, complaining was not my intention.

IcyPepper2 votes

And we thank you for that.

It's a lot easier to converse when the OP sets the bar with "Is [X] out of hand?" and makes it clear that the subject is subjective and he/she is open to opinions, rather than a blanket "[X] is OP, please NERF!!!" that we see a lot more often than we should...

And yeah, Voli does seem like he's climbing out of line. He's not in "OMG PLZ NERF!" territory quite yet, but champions do have a bad habit of slowly climbing into that position...

ZombieOfun1 votes

Thank you very much!

JavelinJoe3 votes

The masteries gave him a great deal of sustain, armor, and mr for free. And with tankier items and item 3748 having great synergy, he is able to get that damage.

ZombieOfun1 votes

That does make sense, I wonder if it makes him objectively "Overpowered" or maybe just another one of the champs that sticks out with the current meta.

JavelinJoe2 votes

sticks out. he loses to garen every time and alone can't win a game. Why he is so powerful now is based on the meta where tankiness is popular, so less champions can damage him per team (2 carries, 1 tanky support, 2 tanks)

ZombieOfun1 votes

That is understandable. Thank you for your input!

SlaktarTasken1 votes

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The masteries gave him a great deal of sustain, armor, and mr for free. And with tankier items and item 3748 having great synergy, he is able to get that damage.

Wow, is he really the only champion that get's anything from masteries or don't they all?

Abyssphere1 votes

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Wow, is he really the only champion that get's anything from masteries or don't they all?

Masteries are really good for regen-based champions this season. That's why Mundo got so ridiculous.

JavelinJoe1 votes

Chogath Garen DrMundo Zac XinZhao Trundle Volibear

SlaktarTasken1 votes

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Masteries are really good for regen-based champions this season. That's why Mundo got so ridiculous.

Mundo ridiculous? That's why he's so rampant with his what 48% winrate?

Abyssphere1 votes

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Mundo ridiculous? That's why he's so rampant with his what 48% winrate?

Is the start of the season really too far back for you to remember?

SlaktarTasken1 votes

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Is the start of the season really too far back for you to remember?

What does the start of the season have to do with current stastistics?

Abyssphere1 votes

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What does the start of the season have to do with current stastistics?

Absolutely nothing. That's why I wasn't talking about current statistics.

SlaktarTasken1 votes

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Absolutely nothing. That's why I wasn't talking about current statistics.

Then why refer to it at all?

Abyssphere1 votes

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Then why refer to it at all?

As an example of how masteries have benefited champions this season as a whole, particularly the regen-based ones. Mundo was extremely strong at the start of the season, at least in part because he had extreme synergy with the defensive tree, and got heavy nerfs because of it.

I really thought that was extremely obvoius.

Foxstep3 votes

Volibear is so brain dead you almost lose brain cells while playing him. You just can't fuck up while playing this guy and that is what make him so strong. His passive is also on a short cooldown and since the other last whisper item is better than mortal reminder nobody is buying it.

9L9L9L9L9L9L9L2 votes

I guess that's what happen when you have items like Sunfire and Dead Man's Plate.....

ViashinoWizard2 votes

A rolling thunder gathers no moss.

ZombieOfun1 votes

Haha! A fun twist on an old proverb, love it!

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

He's always been pretty strong and insanely tanky, but I wouldn't say he's anywhere near "out of hand".

ZombieOfun1 votes

That could very well be true! In the end the game is primarily based on skill with champions and ability to work as a team so it is possible that the enemy Voli's and their teams were good or visa versa I and my teams were performing poorly to have gotten as punished by Voli as I did. I'm sure if I suddenly picked up Voli with no practice I probably wouldn't be very good!

SlaktarTasken1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aVlhROix,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-04-03T05:41:35.439+0000)

He's always been pretty strong and insanely tanky, but I wouldn't say he's anywhere near "out of hand".

What's so insanely tanky about him? His only natural defensive steroid (his passive) is pathetic when compared to the damage reduction pure bread tanks who by the way have an easier time assassinating squishy targets than him.Poppy His damage output is pathetic when his ult is down, if you try to duel him at low health then you deserve to get bitten to death. He can only single out one target and has to avoid getting kited/cclocked/slowed to death to do it. He can't knock away an entire frontline for easy instagib on carries or knock up an entire team. Poppy

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

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What's so insanely tanky about him? His only natural defensive steroid (his passive) is pathetic when compared to the damage reduction pure bread tanks who by the way have an easier time assassinating squishy targets than him.Poppy His damage output is pathetic when his ult is down, if you try to duel him at low health then you deserve to get bitten to death. He can only single out one target and has to avoid getting kited/cclocked/slowed to death to do it. He can't knock away a front line for easy instagib on carrier or knock up an entire team. Poppy

Its the essentially second life he gets with his passive.

SlaktarTasken1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aVlhROix,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2016-04-03T18:37:12.139+0000)

Its the essentially second life he gets with his passive.

Yeah, Voli so rampant and OP, that's why he's spammed and banned in LCS. /s

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

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Yeah, Voli so rampant and OP, that's why he's spammed and banned in LCS. /s

When have I ever said or even implied that?

Irelia Bot2 votes

He is out preforming many champs currently.

http://champion.gg/champion/Volibear/Jungle

A 54% win rate is nothign to laugh at and say nothign is up.

It is likely a result of the items improving the effectiveness of his kit. Give him a dead man's and a lot of champs can not get away from Voli and his rolling thunder that easily. Sterak's makes him resistant to burst damage making him more likely to get better use of his passive.

He has a lot of things improving his strengths or covering his weaknesses. And yes being able to bust Voli out before his passive kicked in was often times a good way to contend with him.

But he also tends to fall off in longer games and the games have been overall shorter. So he got an indirect buff by having things go faster.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

highest winrate in jungle position. meanwhile his main role is top lane. I would very much say yes he is. hes the tankiest stickiest champion in the game.

L0ve Is Blue2 votes

Usualy tanks with health/deffensive scalings tend to be too strong because they don't need any damage to deal damage

Malphite Rammus Volibear

Until they were nerfed to the ground like our dear Sejuani

ZombieOfun2 votes

Rest in peace, our dear Sej.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

SO PRECIOUS

SlaktarTasken1 votes

Volibear is only solid when people are dumb enough to feed him early, do not feed him and he will be as usefull as a sack of meat come midgame.

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