Why cant I improve my skills

Acemaster81·Feb 3, 2019·2 votes·1,938 views

I have trouble playing against assassins in mid lane, I sometimes dodge But the moment I fail to its a guaranteed death and its frustrating. I try to think of what items could be useful for the champions I play which are but more often than not I end up lacking damage, not being able to protect other teammates or taking too much damage because I have a hard time choosing to build tanky or do damage. I forget to ward a lot, and other times I feel like my reactions are too slow. I stay away ranked because I don't view myself good enough to really do much. Is there anything that can really help me?

Also, a tactic or skill I could develop to deal with champions like Would help, I want to be able to not be entirely useless when they are around.

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SyrileFeb 3, 20192 votes

Assassins are really overpowered right now. However, one major problem with that list of champions is that most of them should not be in mid lane. Generally, you can only play the more strange champions mid lane once you understand a lot of the matchups and are really good with them. Nami should almost never be there. Soraka and Volibear are not particularly good either and Twitch is way too vulnerable in mid. Aurelion Sol is very hard to play in general for most people and Swain is rather weak right now (but I love him) and Veigar is pretty hard to deal with assassins.

However, if you want to play Sol, Veigar and Swain, there are some good things you can do. Ward-wise, find a system to help you. Maybe a timer that pings for the CD on your wards. Keep checking your map and learn some good ward placement (maybe watch some videos?).

You can invest in Stopwatch with the inspiration tree that will help with all ins. You can pick up the defensive boots rather than offensive ones, based on which type of assassin you are facing. Get corrupting potion early and get used to playing super safe until you get used to it. Learn some champions that counter assassins well. Malzahar is a personal favorite. You can play around getting all-in'd by using his passive and silence to negate a lot of their damage. You can poke safely with E and punish them when they CS and use bugs for free damage.

Some common tactics that can be used with all of the characters you want to play is to punish them when they try to CS. Other than Teemo and Azir, they are all Melee characters. So if they are using auto attacks to CS, use your ranged abilities to damage them and back off when they try to engage unless you have a clear advantage.

When going for trades try to let them use their skills first. Once Zed uses his shuriken and especially his shadow he is much more vulnerable and you can get in free damage. When Talon's Q is down, he cannot dash to you unless you are by a wall and if he used his W you can use a ranged advantage against him if you stay away from his Q range. Those are rather simple to say but I would suggest using each of the champions you have trouble with and getting an idea for how they play so you know the ranges and cooldowns and how they have to CS.

These are just a few basic tips. It is beyond a single post to really give anything in depth.

Acemaster81Feb 3, 2019

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Assassins are really overpowered right now. However, one major problem with that list of champions is that most of them should not be in mid lane. Generally, you can only play the more strange champions mid lane once you understand a lot of the matchups and are really good with them. Nami should almost never be there. Soraka and Volibear are not particularly good either and Twitch is way too vulnerable in mid. Aurelion Sol is very hard to play in general for most people and Swain is rather weak right now (but I love him) and Veigar is pretty hard to deal with assassins.

However, if you want to play Sol, Veigar and Swain, there are some good things you can do. Ward-wise, find a system to help you. Maybe a timer that pings for the CD on your wards. Keep checking your map and learn some good ward placement (maybe watch some videos?).

You can invest in Stopwatch with the inspiration tree that will help with all ins. You can pick up the defensive boots rather than offensive ones, based on which type of assassin you are facing. Get corrupting potion early and get used to playing super safe until you get used to it. Learn some champions that counter assassins well. Malzahar is a personal favorite. You can play around getting all-in'd by using his passive and silence to negate a lot of their damage. You can poke safely with E and punish them when they CS and use bugs for free damage.

Some common tactics that can be used with all of the characters you want to play is to punish them when they try to CS. Other than Teemo and Azir, they are all Melee characters. So if they are using auto attacks to CS, use your ranged abilities to damage them and back off when they try to engage unless you have a clear advantage.

When going for trades try to let them use their skills first. Once Zed uses his shuriken and especially his shadow he is much more vulnerable and you can get in free damage. When Talon's Q is down, he cannot dash to you unless you are by a wall and if he used his W you can use a ranged advantage against him if you stay away from his Q range. Those are rather simple to say but I would suggest using each of the champions you have trouble with and getting an idea for how they play so you know the ranges and cooldowns and how they have to CS.

These are just a few basic tips. It is beyond a single post to really give anything in depth.

Could you explain more if you had the time?

SyrileFeb 3, 20191 votes

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Could you explain more if you had the time?

Maybe sometime in League chat, sure. Using posts on here would be exhausting. :D

Napoleon3Feb 3, 20191 votes

because the game is toxic and i cant focus to the game dying from 1000 range 0 mana problems mages and assasins diving in my tower.

Acemaster81Feb 3, 2019

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because the game is toxic and i cant focus to the game dying from 1000 range 0 mana problems mages and assasins diving in my tower.

There is a way to avoid death to champions like Zed and Fizz, I just am not good at fighting them.

glava222Feb 5, 20191 votes

i hope i can provide some help in assasin matchups. Ill split this post into several parts

Part 1: itemizing against assasins in lane. if you dont feel playing against assasins as a mage you should start with dorans ring and 2 pots. that will get you some health to survive an all in, some ap and some mana regen. At your first back you should pick up another ring and a resist item (cloth armor or null magic depending on the opponent). You want that flat resist armor because your opponent will probably build some flat pen, and a resist item greatly mitigates that(remember that at low resist counts both pen and getting more resist are more useful). then it varies according to the type of the opponent you are facing. Against Ad assasins you want to finish your armguard, but dont go for the zhonyas, since armguard already gives you survivability. If you feel you need more survivability go for RoA(both swain and ASol use this great), if you dont get your first mana/cdr item, then continue building normally until you feel you need to finish the zhonya. Against APs you can either start building RoA if you are scared, or finish merc treads and your mana/cdr item if you arent. You need to know that with this build you will come online later than usual, but the point is to outscale the assasin anyways. TLDR: 2 dorans and resist items are a good buildup vs assasins

Part 2: laning against assasins. There are several things to remember when laning vs assasins so here i will give some tips in no particular order to remember. First off, dont stand near your minions when you cs/harrass, because assasins have want to hit both you and minions with abilities so they can kill you without being showed in. Always stand a bit to the side of your minions, since for example then zed will have to use his shadow and shuriken to clear the wave OR hurt you, but he cant do both, similair with kata daggers and talon w. the second thing is to know the assasins kill pattern. for example you know zed ult will make him appear behind you, same with shunpo, fizz e will jump right on top of you, and talon will q right in your face. Use that knowledge to quickly disable them with a veigar baby cage, swain claw, ASol ulty or raka equinox. The second thing to know is to realize that assasins actually have two engage ranges: the full damage one and a reduced damage one. the reduced damage range is a range where an assasin can all in you, but he uses his damage tools to close the range. For example if a zed has to use his shadow to get in range to ult you, or if fizz has to use his e into q to start a fight, or if talon cant q from close range. At that range they certainly cant kill you from full health, but watch out if you are lower and use your range advantage accordingly. The third and related thing is to count assasin cooldowns. You should count their cooldowns to see when you can safely farm and harrass. The fourth and hardest thing to learn is when to stand your ground. There are cases when you can actually turn an all in around. If you are full health and they arent and they try to all in you, if you think you can kill them dont start running, because you will lose the trade if you just run and let them hit you. Several of the champs you play are also actually quite good at standing their ground in some cases, for example if you are soraka and they are all inning you on your equinox, they cant actually do much.

also to note Swain,ASol and veigar can take aftershock and greatly reduce burst from assasins, just think about it

Acemaster81Feb 5, 2019

Thanks, I actually didn't know Zed appears behind you, or I wasn't paying enough attention to know if he did since he's usually back out from underneath the tower by the time his mark activates. As for my runes I could change them around for that type of matchup, since arcane comet seems to not do too much aside from being a low damage attack that is normally easy to avoid. I have not played Soraka mid before but thanks for the tips for how to deal with them if I do decide to play her in that lane.

glava222Feb 5, 20191 votes

If you want to talk about these things more you can add me on discord, also dont be afraid to try out ranked, it will just put you with people of your skill so you dont have to worry about being outclassed

Acemaster81Feb 5, 2019

Sure I can do that :)

glava222Feb 5, 20191 votes

ok send a friend invite, the name is the same on disc, i just hope our time zones arent totally incompatible XD

Acemaster81Feb 5, 2019

I kinda need your discord id for that XD. Mine is Rubymint#5962

glava222Feb 6, 20191 votes

weird i cant find you, anyways mine is glava222#9227

Acemaster81Feb 3, 2019

I generally play mid, support, adc and sometimes top, not just mid lane so sorry for the confusion. I don't play Twitch, Nami, or Volibear mid