Goodbye, Azir.

Audiomancy·2/5/2015, 1:49:50 AM·21 votes·3,596 views
2/4 PBE Update

Azir Base AD increased to 52 from 49 [Soldier autoattack range reduced to 325 from 400] Conquering Sands ( Q ) damage lowered to 65/85/105/125/145 from 75/105/135/165/195 Arise (W) damage to towers lowered to 60+10 per level (+.4 AP) from 90 +15 per level (+.6 AP)

Okay, so that's his early game damage, splitpushing and range gone. The Q change I can ignore (though the scaling on Q is still garbage). The Tower damage nerf I agree with.

But his range? The one thing that he relies on throughout the entire game? Meanwhile, Zed laughs in the corner, ecstatic that yet another of his viable opponents is now gone.

WP Rito.

61 Comments

Malix Farwin2/5/2015, 3:23:44 AM18 votes

Zed : All our counters are getting gutted... all according to plan

LeeSin : Yup

Mãge2/5/2015, 3:17:32 AM8 votes

About time Azir gets nerfed.

WhereTheNamesAt2/5/2015, 4:09:18 AM7 votes

I would much rather lane against zed or akali then lane against azir. Poking me as a mage all the way to my second tower is bullshit.

Direwolfiez2/5/2015, 5:32:08 AM5 votes

Okay, so that's his early game damage,

He was intended to be a late-game champ. WHY should he be strong in early game if he's meant to wreck late?

That said, currently Zed is horribly broken, thanks to the mana regen nerfs.

Death is best CC2/5/2015, 1:51:19 PM5 votes

Zed : H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4H4

Done252/5/2015, 3:19:59 AM5 votes

Holy shit. I know he needs a nerf, but that range change just friggen ruins him.

asktiks2/5/2015, 6:04:31 AM5 votes

lol this kind of bulshit is exactly why Ive stopped playing since 5.2 gg riot so friggin biased

meanwhile " you need time to further asses zed and assasins before making changes"

give me a break gg cant wait for hots to go open , lets see how you like dem lcsbigplays apples then

shit , im not even plaing anymore and they still manage to piss me off wp rito...wp

TheBestFalcon2/5/2015, 7:28:36 AM4 votes

great... for the 2nd time in 2 weeks riot is messing with my favorite champs. You alrdy fked ahri beyond belief with 5.2 you gotta go and hit my azir too. Hes def a strong pick right now but asides from the W dmg to towers does he really need a nerf. his early game pre 20min is basically non existent he has no real hard cc, very little pick potential, cant outrade any1 early, and is terrible at chasing and securing kills on any1 with the slighest bit of mobility.

Nausicäa 2/5/2015, 9:40:11 PM4 votes

Ya these nerfs are an absolute joke.

Azir is a classic case where percieved power due to competitive picks and bans far outweighs his actual power.

The funny thing is that his popularity in competitive has already declined substantially, hes no longer getting picked or banned in every match.

Kitten of Evil2/5/2015, 8:28:42 AM4 votes

Oh thank god they buffed his AD. Because he directly autoattacks so much /sarcasm

Arch Mage Magnus2/5/2015, 10:07:46 AM3 votes

Buffing AD for Azir, lowering attack speed on Zed. Who the hell is running the balance team at Riot? Did Zilean ult Ray Charles?

Anonagon2/5/2015, 3:26:32 AM3 votes

I don't get why they would ever nerf his sustained damage (through range) and damage to towers. He's unique in that he's basically the first true magical ADC (teemo and kayle are close but lack tower-killing) - why change that?

Aaravos2/5/2015, 5:44:32 AM3 votes

Another range nerf another destroyed champ. GG. And Zed of course untouched. Time to nerf Lissandra too. She is his last viable counter after the Fizz nerf

Meep Man2/5/2015, 1:43:46 PM3 votes

He does NOT need the range nerf!

fwL7umeoQe2/5/2015, 3:39:36 PM3 votes

Azir was one of my favorite champs. Fuck you Riot. Why don't you focus on nerfing actual problems. The only reason people complain about Azir is because they don't know how to play against him. Most of the people calling him broken are low elo idiots to put it simply. Azir has way too many weaknesses and this is making it worse.

Fieryfury32/7/2015, 9:27:15 AM3 votes

I also main Azir and while he can zone like crazy, Take any mid laners that can get past his soldiers and he is screwed. I've barely played any games where I just go overkill and destroy everyone. Most of my games as azir is just go almost even in lane and get a few kills late game because I'm getting focused so hard. If someone stands in my soldiers and keeps getting hit then that's their own fault. Do like you would any long range champ. Bait out their ability and go get some hits in. I've had plenty of people destroy me when I'm azir. Anyone who can blink over his wall will basically destroy him. STOP NERFING CHAMPS THAT ARE MECHANICALLY CHALLENGING. SHURIMA NEEDS TO LIVE ONAzir Azir

48983507DEL12/5/2015, 7:57:27 PM2 votes

Azir is popular not only because he counters Zed you know. He's being nerfed because he has relatively no weaknesses in the current meta, with his only true way to counter him being outranging him which isn't very possible due to mages being particularly weak due to the mana changes, and even if these specific mages were buffed, he would still be able to outdamage them due to his consistant multitarget damage and insane utility that not many other mages can boast. He's too strong against most melee champs and just in general to exist in his current state.

This isn't some conspiracy against making Zed invincible, which he definitely isn't despite everyones beliefs. especially showing how Riot did actually give him a nerf which is more significant than people think. He has actual counterplay and his set of hard counters Malzahar Lissandra Kayle Fizz, as well as specific items that completely counter him item 3157 item 3139.

Face the facts, Azir is just a little too powerful, and Zed is not as bad as everyone thinks. These nerfs aren't even gutting the champ, as he still has high dps and rediculous utility and zoning, he just can't faceroll like before. He's not dead and he still counters Zed. That's my time and those are my rhymes. Goddamnit.

HexTechBomber2/5/2015, 6:40:48 AM2 votes

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Percseuss2/5/2015, 11:18:02 PM2 votes

Zed counters Azir did you watch the LCS last week? POB picked Zed into Azir

Kilane2/9/2015, 11:58:01 PM2 votes

Do they even have champ winrate when played in PBE as they applied the change? I mean it looks more like they happen to get the guy that hate Azir to tell them "oh this is perfectly balance now once you gutted him...kekekekeke" while something like Ahri would be like "no my adorable Ahri nerfs is too much. Your nerf her too much" and Rito just do what they say everyword.

Drukyul2/9/2015, 11:51:48 PM2 votes

If they're going to reduce the range that much they need to cut the cooldown on Q by half so you can actually have them in a reasonable position more than 1% of the time. And no one wants that.

Raptamei2/5/2015, 5:13:41 PM2 votes

{quoted}

Meanwhile, Zed laughs in the corner, ecstatic that yet another of his viable opponents is now gone.

WP Rito.

If Riot is going so far as to nerfslam Azir, I get the feeling Zed is going to drop the soap pretty soon.